k-hawinkler Posted November 22, 2013 Share #2541 Posted November 22, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hmm, how would the Otus do on the A7R? New Zeiss takes first place in rankings - DxOMark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted November 22, 2013 Posted November 22, 2013 Hi k-hawinkler, Take a look here The Sony A7 thread [Merged]. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
IkarusJohn Posted November 22, 2013 Share #2542 Posted November 22, 2013 I don't think the supply will not be able match the demand so... Not sure I understand this comment - if I sell, it will be a brand new camera at a discount ... Edit - I see it is available on eBay for USD 5,000! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted November 22, 2013 Share #2543 Posted November 22, 2013 Anyone heard anything about the Leica T(701)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Chen Posted November 22, 2013 Share #2544 Posted November 22, 2013 Anyone heard anything about the Leica T(701)? Could be a re-badged Panasonic DMC-GM1K with APS-C senor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirekti Posted November 22, 2013 Share #2545 Posted November 22, 2013 Not sure I understand this comment - if I sell, it will be a brand new camera at a discount ... Edit - I see it is available on eBay for USD 5,000! Well, it won't be a brand new camera;) This simply is not Leica and camera's resale value might be considerably lower. I just wanted to point out it might not be as easy to sell it with a reasonable small loss. The only way this guy will sell the camera for $5000 is if you and me make a $5000 bet, and you purchase the camera to get those $5000 back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptZoom Posted November 22, 2013 Share #2546 Posted November 22, 2013 Anyone heard anything about the Leica T(701)? This sounds like trouble... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecaton Posted November 22, 2013 Share #2547 Posted November 22, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) So what`s the bottom line now from the early adopters. Are the A7® good enough with M 35mm and longer optics. And are they noticeably better than the M(9). Or should the A7® be used best with the (non-) existing native lenses? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest polygamer Posted November 22, 2013 Share #2548 Posted November 22, 2013 Well, I will continue to speak only for myself! Hi, the pictures I have seen so far with the A7/R and M mount glass are not very convincing, for me at least. I am a little disappointed, because I wanted another SONY to accompany my M9 and my NEXen. With the SONY NEX-7 and UWW/WW M glass, I went through all of this before. After great hype, and expectations the trough of disappointment. So, what to do? With SONY NEX, the thing to do was and is: Wait for the next NEX. And with the SONY Alpha7/R ? Well, after alpha comes beta. So, beta will be better (hopefully)! P.S.: The next NEX after the NEX-7 was the NEX-6. I have one, it has lens corrections (for rare cases), and works perfectly with my 21 Leica M mount lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbell Posted November 22, 2013 Share #2549 Posted November 22, 2013 Seems like it. Thanks. [ATTACH]409597[/ATTACH] BTW the reddish tint in images 09 - 12 is easily corrected by setting Temperature to 4000 and Tint to -30 or something in that neighborhood. I used the Adobe Standard Profile. Sorry guys. See my head cold caveat of yesterday! Think the computer went to sleep (as did I), will upload the missing two soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted November 22, 2013 Share #2550 Posted November 22, 2013 Well, it won't be a brand new camera;)This simply is not Leica and camera's resale value might be considerably lower. I just wanted to point out it might not be as easy to sell it with a reasonable small loss. The only way this guy will sell the camera for $5000 is if you and me make a $5000 bet, and you purchase the camera to get those $5000 back. Or we have a race. See who buys it first! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbell Posted November 22, 2013 Share #2551 Posted November 22, 2013 Encouraging - do you have any other Leica lenses than the 35 Summicron? The Noct image has more barrel distortion than I would have expected ... I have 35cron, 50lux, 75cron. (No Noct?) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbell Posted November 22, 2013 Share #2552 Posted November 22, 2013 Hi, the pictures I have seen so far with the A7/R and M mount glass are not very convincing, for me at least. I'm not an UWA guy, 35 - 50 -75, but so far the pictures I've MADE (not seen) with the A7R and my M lenses of those focal lengths are astonishing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbell Posted November 22, 2013 Share #2553 Posted November 22, 2013 File list is complete on Dropbox and names now reflect the actual file. Apologies for the errors. Any thoughts / discussions on the set appreciated. (Not for nothing, but my findings are almost exactly mirroring Steve Huffs. Including the other press people's difficulty in MF lens focus. It's a breeze!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevelap Posted November 22, 2013 Share #2554 Posted November 22, 2013 Anyone heard anything about the Leica T(701)? Lots of rumours From October 31st http://leicarumors.com/2013/10/31/new-leica-t-type-701-camera-coming-soon.aspx/ And this http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com This sounds like trouble... There are the inevitable speculation threads http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/digital-forum/308841-ceo-alfred-schopf-future-products.html http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/digital-forum/294914-red-dot-version-panasonic-gx7.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Chen Posted November 22, 2013 Share #2555 Posted November 22, 2013 File list is complete on Dropbox and names now reflect the actual file. Apologies for the errors. Any thoughts / discussions on the set appreciated. Can you kindly post the original ARW files onto the Dropbox? I would like to see how well Sony' "Image Data Converter" treats its RAW file. Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted November 22, 2013 Share #2556 Posted November 22, 2013 So, beta will be better (hopefully)! Watch out! I have been a beta tester for the Leica M240 since the first ones shipped so I would be very reticent to buy any camera called a "beta". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbell Posted November 22, 2013 Share #2557 Posted November 22, 2013 Can you kindly post the original ARW files onto the Dropbox? I would like to see how well Sony' "Image Data Converter" treats its RAW file. Thanks! Yes, sorry Thomas. I did it late and with a head cold and have basically made a bit of a mess with the files. What I proposed this morning to KH, who asked the same via pm, was that I shoot some daylight comparisons throughout the day and post those in unaltered format this evening. I can redo the table top test at any time this weekend if required. Only takes half an hour. Watch this space. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Jones Posted November 22, 2013 Share #2558 Posted November 22, 2013 So what`s the bottom line now from the early adopters. Are the A7® good enough with M 35mm and longer optics. And are they noticeably better than the M(9). Or should the A7® be used best with the (non-) existing native lenses? Yes it's good enough with 35mm+, I like it a lot with the Zeiss 50 1.5 which I found impossible to master on the M9 because of the focus shift. Noticeably better than the M9 at low light, great for indoors in the UK. I understand the M240 is good for low light too, it would be much harder to decide between those two. If I lived in a sunnier climate I might not be so interested in it. So far it looks like a keeper for me. I'll probably use it to bridge the gap between the M9p and future M. I don't like the in camera white balance, everything looks too cold to me. Build quality and looks are a fraction of the M9p like the price. Shooting on a tripod the detail is incredible. To me it's like a mini dslr as opposed to the simplicity of the M9. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbell Posted November 22, 2013 Share #2559 Posted November 22, 2013 Shooting on a tripod the detail is incredible. To me it's like a mini dslr as opposed to the simplicity of the M9. Yes! Exactly. And my framework is that I'm only at Leica because there was no mini DSLR at the time (M9). If you want RF shoot Leica M. We're getting to the point where that's the only distinguishing feature. Not to belittle it, if it's important to someone's shooting style then that's none of my business. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardkaraa Posted November 22, 2013 Share #2560 Posted November 22, 2013 How about infinity distance? I think this is where most corner problems occur, smearing and color shift. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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