k-hawinkler Posted November 18, 2013 Share #2321 Posted November 18, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) YAWN! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted November 18, 2013 Posted November 18, 2013 Hi k-hawinkler, Take a look here The Sony A7 thread [Merged]. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Guest Posted November 18, 2013 Share #2322 Posted November 18, 2013 YAWN! Bump up the post count Since we're giving up on 28mm: How are the Asph 35mm lenses in the corners? And fully open? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trylab Posted November 18, 2013 Share #2323 Posted November 18, 2013 Sorry, but I keep my preorder, and I welcome Sony A7r as my M9P's new friend. I sell my NEX-6, and reuse the charger, both batteries, Nex-6 microphone, and E to M, R, and Nikon lenses adapters. I think it's a good plan, and exactly what I had hoped for a few months. My preordered Sony A7 LCD Protector already sent me, so it is too late to cancel A7r anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted November 18, 2013 Share #2324 Posted November 18, 2013 One person's opinion and not worth the time to watch it for me. Like I keep saying I will make my own decision when that time comes with all the multitude of lenses I plan to try, M, R and Contax G AF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted November 18, 2013 Share #2325 Posted November 18, 2013 Craig is "seriously considering giving up [his] Nikon gear and going all Sony." Cancelling his pre-order was probably a good idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaybob Posted November 18, 2013 Share #2326 Posted November 18, 2013 My particular interest will be to use R lenses with a good adapter on and A7R. That, in turn, begs two questions for me: first, obtaining a good adapter because some of the lenses are heavy (280 f4, 180 f2.8, 28-90) - Novoflex, Metabones, Fotodiox, or from SRB in Luton UK - so any thoughts will be most welcome; secondly, many of the comments above centre on using M lenses especially wide angles - but I wonder how the 21-35 R lens will work as the rear element to sensor distance is much greater than with an M21 or WATE. And, importantly, how will the body be with the longer focal length R lenses??? Has anyone so far got experience of using R glass on the body... R lenses are way out of proportion with the body, way too front heavy. They will perform fine, but are quite unwieldy in practical handheld use. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted November 18, 2013 Share #2327 Posted November 18, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) R lenses are way out of proportion with the body, way too front heavy. They will perform fine, but are quite unwieldy in practical handheld use. Again-one man's opinion. I respect it, but will have to test that issue on my own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_clarke Posted November 18, 2013 Share #2328 Posted November 18, 2013 R lenses are way out of proportion with the body, way too front heavy. They will perform fine, but are quite unwieldy in practical handheld use. Hi Jaybob - have you actually tried R lenses on an A7R or are you simply surmising what they may be like? Best wishes, Graeme Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaybob Posted November 18, 2013 Share #2329 Posted November 18, 2013 No A7 as of yet but longtime NEX user....135 2.8 on a louped NEX-5. The images on the sensor (the end results) were stunning, but my experimentation didn't last but a few weeks. Your mileage may vary... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/214267-the-sony-a7-thread-merged/?do=findComment&comment=2468676'>More sharing options...
AlanG Posted November 18, 2013 Share #2330 Posted November 18, 2013 No A7 as of yet but longtime NEX user....135 2.8 on a louped NEX-5. The images on the sensor (the end results) were stunning, but my experimentation didn't last but a few weeks. Your mileage may vary... I think if you are not using an EVF and are composing on the LCD any camera is hard to hold for very long. An extended loup doesn't allow you to press the camera against your face either. The heavier it is the harder to hold. The Nex has a much smaller grip than the A7 thus it doesn't allow you to use all of your fingers to grasp the camera. So heavier lenses are hard to hold regardless of how large they are. The A7 works much better. Additionally there is an add on grip available for the A7 for those who want a larger grip or a vertical hand position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Chen Posted November 19, 2013 Share #2331 Posted November 19, 2013 Not yet, but you and I are on the same page. I recently picked up the Metabones R-E mount adapter. It is quite heavy I must say, but what impressed me for the $99 was that it includes a very nice tripod mount that is already shaped for QR use. It looks removable should one want to do that. I'm interested in this adapter too. May I ask a question that is there a 1/4" thread socket in the tripod mount? Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted November 19, 2013 Share #2332 Posted November 19, 2013 I think if you are not using an EVF and are composing on the LCD any camera is hard to hold for very long. An extended loup doesn't allow you to press the camera against your face either. The heavier it is the harder to hold. The Nex has a much smaller grip than the A7 thus it doesn't allow you to use all of your fingers to grasp the camera. So heavier lenses are hard to hold regardless of how large they are. The A7 works much better. Additionally there is an add on grip available for the A7 for those who want a larger grip or a vertical hand position. IMO there is just one camera that is perfect to handhold for a long with a substantial lens and that is the R8/9 with DMR. And that is a bl***y heavy thing. All these lightweight small things are simply unbalanced and wobbly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Jones Posted November 19, 2013 Share #2333 Posted November 19, 2013 Bump up the post count Since we're giving up on 28mm: How are the Asph 35mm lenses in the corners? And fully open? First impression, the 35/2 ASPH really shines on the A7r. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Jones Posted November 19, 2013 Share #2334 Posted November 19, 2013 I've been using the M135/2.8 with goggles, the results are lovely but the camera lens combination is ugly as sin. I'm glad of the metal front on the A7r, you could see where some flex could creep in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanG Posted November 19, 2013 Share #2335 Posted November 19, 2013 IMO there is just one camera that is perfect to handhold for a long with a substantial lens and that is the R8/9 with DMR. And that is a bl***y heavy thing. All these lightweight small things are simply unbalanced and wobbly. I disagree. I think the less weight in total, the better. I always support most of the weight of a long lens with my left hand under it. I feel a 100-400 Canon lens is a lot easier to hold on a 5D size body than on a 1D size body. Although having a vertical grip is nice. I stopped using 1Ds because they were too heavy for me to carry all day. I think an A7r would make it even easier to hold this combo. I just tested an old 400mm MF lens on my Nex 6. It is actually back heavy from where my left hand is placed on the focusing collar. So why would I want more weight back there? I can hold this very steady with that light Nex camera. Besides, you can always add weight to a camera but you can't eliminate it. I once took apart a telephone that had a substantial heft to the handset.... there was a useless weight in it to give it "gravitas." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted November 19, 2013 Share #2336 Posted November 19, 2013 I'm interested in this adapter too. May I ask a question that is there a 1/4" thread socket in the tripod mount? Thanks. No, it has the QR plate on the bottom with two hex bolts holding it in place. You might be able to have someone tap a 1/4" hole into it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildlightphoto Posted November 19, 2013 Share #2337 Posted November 19, 2013 As to the longer R lenses, we discussed that to some degree on Fredmiranda.com and the Suede who is quite knowledgeable indicated that he would expect no problems even when using the 1.4X and 2X Apo Extenders. The exception might be the 560mm f6.8 (and possibly the 400mm f6.8?) Telyt lenses where he thought that we may experience a small amount of vignetting of perhaps 1 to maybe 3mm of the frame. Pretty certain it was someone who is active on this forum who was discussing the f/6.8 Telyts on the FM thread... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
naturephoto1 Posted November 19, 2013 Share #2338 Posted November 19, 2013 Pretty certain it was someone who is active on this forum who was discussing the f/6.8 Telyts on the FM thread... Hi Doug, There is no question that you were most definitely involved in the conversation on FM. I am sorry that I did not include you in the reference. It was a discussion that you, the Suede, and I had in the thread. Please accept my apology for not including you in the reference. Rich Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildlightphoto Posted November 19, 2013 Share #2339 Posted November 19, 2013 Hi Doug, There is no question that you were most definitely involved in the conversation on FM. I am sorry that I did not include you in the reference. It was a discussion that you, the Suede, and I had in the thread. Please accept my apology for not including you in the reference. Rich No problem Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barjohn Posted November 19, 2013 Share #2340 Posted November 19, 2013 A couple of points that I haven't seen discussed. The first is that I haven't seen real solid testing with just Leica glass so it is still hard to evaluate how they perform with either A7 or A7r. The second important point is that Leica does in camera correction for their lenses and I haven't seen anyone use the Sony app that will provide this ability to be tuned to the specific lens and to make corrections thus the comparisons are of an uncorrected image versus a corrected image. It is a no brainer to say that an uncorrected image will show vignetting and some color shift compared to a corrected one. Leica wouldn't have had to do the in camera processing if offset lenses on the sensor were enough to fix the close register problem. Sony allows one to do corrections for any lens whereas the Leica corrections are limited to Leica lenses. Once we know the answer to those questions we can make a more informed decision. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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