wlaidlaw Posted April 11, 2007 Share #1 Â Posted April 11, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) I had this morning a new fault on my M8. I had a freshly formatted empty card in the M8 (Sandisk Extreme III 2Gb). On the first image I took, the back screen said "SD Card Full". I pressed play and it said "no images to play". I tried a different card (a 1Gb Apacer - also had been formatted before being put in my bag, as I wanted to try a non-Sandisk card and all my other M8 ones are Sandisk). It behaved exactly the same faulty way. I took the battery out and after reinserting, reformatted the first card and all seems well now. Just another little glitch? Â Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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scott kirkpatrick Posted April 11, 2007 Share #2 Â Posted April 11, 2007 I had this morning a new fault on my M8. I had a freshly formatted empty card in the M8 (Sandisk Extreme III 2Gb). On the first image I took, the back screen said "SD Card Full". ... Just another little glitch? Â Did you format the card in the camera or in your PC/reader? If the latter, all bets are off. Always formatting the card in your camera seems to be trouble-free so far. (At least for me, and I am using SanDisk, Kingston, and Transcend interchangeably.) Â scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted April 11, 2007 Author Share #3  Posted April 11, 2007 Did you format the card in the camera or in your PC/reader? If the latter, all bets are off. Always formatting the card in your camera seems to be trouble-free so far. (At least for me, and I am using SanDisk, Kingston, and Transcend interchangeably.)  scott  Scott,  After getting soundly spanked by more knowledgeable users some time ago, about my downloading practices, I always now download in a card reader and reformat in the M8 afterwards, every time. If they had been cards I had done in a reader, I would not be worried. The cards were so different, I don't think it could have been the card and had to be the card/camera interface.  It all seems absolutely fine now taking runs of 10 on continuous DNG + JPEG fine. I was posting to see if anyone else had had this glitch and if it presaged worse to come. In two weeks, I have had a recoverable lock up and now this. I am getting my box to Solms ready!  What I picked up my camera to take before it disappeared was this: Big chief say white man go that way :+] This fire is about 1000 feet below me in the valley - taken with Elmarit 90.  Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted April 11, 2007 Share #4 Â Posted April 11, 2007 Had a similar issue with cards that had been in different cameras. The second camera overwrote file tags or something, so that the camera that took the images originally wouldnt recognise, hence card full no images to display, in either camera. If I recall I had to format and clean in a couple of different cameras to remove unseen files. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
egibaud Posted April 11, 2007 Share #5 Â Posted April 11, 2007 I do not know why people keep trying to use SD card that DO NOT APPEAR on Leica's compatible card list. Â If you want to experiment fine, but please don't come up with "one more faulty feature with the M8" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Â Have you tried under water pics??? well, without special water proof case the M8 is VERY FAULTY ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
finkaudio Posted April 11, 2007 Share #6  Posted April 11, 2007 I do not know why people keep trying to use SD card that DO NOT APPEAR on Leica's compatible card list.  If you want to experiment fine, but please don't come up with "one more faulty feature with the M8" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Have you tried under water pics??? well, without special water proof case the M8 is VERY FAULTY !   Very true!. I had to downgrade to Ultra II in order to get reliable results. My Extreme Card had the same problem and my dealer took it back, confirming it was the card.  It's so easy to bash on the M8, even so you can find enough comments here about the problem with Extreme III cards.  Regards  Karl-Heinz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 11, 2007 Share #7 Â Posted April 11, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) I do not know why people keep trying to use SD card that DO NOT APPEAR on Leica's compatible card list. Â If you want to experiment fine, but please don't come up with "one more faulty feature with the M8" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Â Have you tried under water pics??? well, without special water proof case the M8 is VERY FAULTY ! Â Not so fast! The Apacer 1GB is on the approved list. The Extreme III 2 GB not, but the 1GB is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted April 11, 2007 Share #8 Â Posted April 11, 2007 Not so fast! The Apacer 1GB is on the approved list. The Extreme III 2 GB not, but the 1GB is. Â And with a PC and Extreme III 1GB and 2GB cards, I have had no problems. I think it's Mac users who have reported problems. The list of supported cards hasn't changed since last fall, and we know that small changes are being made with each firmware release. Â scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
egibaud Posted April 11, 2007 Share #9  Posted April 11, 2007 Dear jaapv  Well if you read Leica's list you will see that they specify each make and model and size...  So why do they put the Extreme III 1Gb and not the 2Gb one? other makes put the 1 and 2 Gb...?  WELL BECAUSE IT IS NOT COMPATIBLE OR MAY GIVE PROBLEMS !!!!!!!!  Is this that hard to guess? well of course it is easier to say it is an M8 problem than to read the Leica PDF !!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Roggen Posted April 11, 2007 Share #10 Â Posted April 11, 2007 I'm on a Mac and use the Extreme III 2gb. No problems here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 11, 2007 Share #11  Posted April 11, 2007 Dear jaapv Well if you read Leica's list you will see that they specify each make and model and size...  So why do they put the Extreme III 1Gb and not the 2Gb one? other makes put the 1 and 2 Gb...?  WELL BECAUSE IT IS NOT COMPATIBLE OR MAY GIVE PROBLEMS !!!!!!!!  Is this that hard to guess? well of course it is easier to say it is an M8 problem than to read the Leica PDF !!!  Excuse me?? I thought that was exactly what I said. The point was that his APACER card behaved the same way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootist Posted April 11, 2007 Share #12 Â Posted April 11, 2007 To all, including the OP There have been numerous posts about Sandisc E3 2GB cards. They simply don't work all the time. Yes some times they do but with every post about card problems it seems the Sandisc E3 2GB cards are mentioned the most. So don't use them. I have been using Lexar Pro 133X cards and never had any problems with them in the M8 or the D200. Â To the OP it is NOT a fault in the M8. It is a fault with that make/model/size card. Â And to the poster that said "I'm on a Mac". Just what does that have to do with SD cards in a Leica M8. Gees. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted April 11, 2007 Author Share #13 Â Posted April 11, 2007 I do not know why people keep trying to use SD card that DO NOT APPEAR on Leica's compatible card list. Â If you want to experiment fine, but please don't come up with "one more faulty feature with the M8" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Â Have you tried under water pics??? well, without special water proof case the M8 is VERY FAULTY ! Â Eric, Â Might be best to check your facts before putting your typing finger into gear and flaming people. SanDisk 2GB cards are on the Leica list as is the Apacer. I checked with Leica UK if it was OK to use the Extreme III version of the Sandisk 2GB and they replied that all the Sandisk 2gb cards were fine, but agreed their list was not too clear. Â Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted April 11, 2007 Share #14 Â Posted April 11, 2007 Have you tried under water pics??? Â Jaap's got this plastic bag for you:o. You know...if you need... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 11, 2007 Share #15 Â Posted April 11, 2007 Doesn't matter, Wilson, the lad is a bit excitable, no harm done. I have three Sandisk Extreme III 2Gb that function flawlessly, but they are indeed reported as problematic more often than others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
egibaud Posted April 11, 2007 Share #16  Posted April 11, 2007 Eric, Might be best to check your facts before putting your typing finger into gear and flaming people. SanDisk 2GB cards are on the Leica list as is the Apacer. I checked with Leica UK if it was OK to use the Extreme III version of the Sandisk 2GB and they replied that all the Sandisk 2gb cards were fine, but agreed their list was not too clear.  Wilson  Sorry for that, I checked their file 3 weeks ago before buying the extreme III 2gb and it was not on the list, so I bought Ultra 2gb.  It seems file has been updated, I apologize.  And by the way, I used extreme III 1 Gb on my panasonic FZ30. But I noticed that because I do not do continuous shooting with the M8 the Ultra II is perfect and cheaper too.  Eric Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 11, 2007 Share #17 Â Posted April 11, 2007 Wilson, what firmware do you run? It may be that the support for the cards only came with 1.092. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankg Posted April 11, 2007 Share #18 Â Posted April 11, 2007 Occaisionally my Mac will stop recognizing the M8 sd card. In these circumstances I have to plug the camera into a PC to retrieve the images. Reformating in camera gets it back to normal. There is still something flakey with the M8 DNG/sd card implementation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted April 11, 2007 Author Share #19 Â Posted April 11, 2007 Wilson, what firmware do you run? It may be that the support for the cards only came with 1.092. Â Jaap, Â I am running 1.092. Given that exactly the same problem was apparent on a different make and size of card, I think it is highly likely that I eliminated a card specific problem. It was the camera which would not find any image after the problem even though it was saying the card was full, as I thought I made pretty clear on my original post and nothing to do with Mac/PC. The card had been formatted in camera and no images taken on it prior to the problem. It cannot be anything other than a camera or formatting glitch. After I had minor problems (play hang ups) with one of the first cards I used on the M8, which I happened to have in a drawer pre-M8 purchase (a Toshiba 4Gb x133), when I was buying extra cards to go with my original Sandisk Ultra II, I did a fair amount of research before buying the Sandisk EIII. Most technical reports say it is the most stable card available plus the fastest non-HC card. As I posted above, I also checked with Leica UK. The Apacer x60 is quite slow writing DNG's in comparison to the SD ExtIII. Â Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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