viramati Posted July 26, 2013 Share #21 Posted July 26, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Does the 240 really support HSS? Have you tried? I haven't received mine yet but the tech specs don't say anything about HSS except for the M7. Do you still need the SCA adapter? How does that thing work anyway? What exactly does it do? I certainly does at least with the SF58 as I have tried it out. the flash will fire at all shutter speeds so it is great for fill flash in bright light when you need to go above 1/180sec shutter speed though with a reduced power output Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted July 26, 2013 Share #22 Posted July 26, 2013 Can someone make him an offer for it.................if it was black I would buy it but then again no I want a new one.............RM17k to put you out of your misery Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamgm Posted July 26, 2013 Share #23 Posted July 26, 2013 I bought a Fuji X100S a month ago and I'm very impressed with it. I just returned from a 3 week trip to Japan used the Fuji exclusively (my Leica Digilux 2 was in Solms for a sensor & circuit board replacement). I wouldn't want to part with either camera. Geoff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulsydaus Posted July 26, 2013 Share #24 Posted July 26, 2013 Great, thank you! Do you need the SCA adapter? I certainly does at least with the SF58 as I have tried it out. the flash will fire at all shutter speeds so it is great for fill flash in bright light when you need to go above 1/180sec shutter speed though with a reduced power output Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zlatkob Posted July 26, 2013 Share #25 Posted July 26, 2013 Hi, Any ideas how to proceed? (Yes, seeing a psyciatrist, I know) heiko Well, you have my sympathy! I think the way to proceed is to test the X100S thoroughly. It's a good camera, but also very different, and it takes some time to learn how to make it work in different situations. You may find that it's perfect for what you want to do, or all wrong. But you likely won't know right away. I would hold onto the M until I had a definitive sense of whether the X100S (or some other camera) would replace it. For what you want to do with flash, an AF camera is almost essential. And one that's not too heavy. A manual focus camera will work if you prefocus everything and stop down to get some depth of field. Almost any AF camera would do, even a basic DSLR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogfish Posted July 27, 2013 Author Share #26 Posted July 27, 2013 thanks for all your input so far, very much appreciated. I use a Nikon D600 for this kind of work at the moment but do not like the camera too much in other situations. I´ll get the x100s tomorrow and give it a fair try. Would brake my heard to sell Leica though, touched my hard the last couple of years... Damn, why must my style evolve? Was so happy with my gear... heiko Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 27, 2013 Share #27 Posted July 27, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) ... Damn, why must my style evolve? Was so happy with my gear... heiko That's life, mate.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
satureyes Posted July 27, 2013 Share #28 Posted July 27, 2013 thanks for all your input so far, very much appreciated. I use a Nikon D600 for this kind of work at the moment but do not like the camera too much in other situations. I´ll get the x100s tomorrow and give it a fair try. Would brake my heard to sell Leica though, touched my hard the last couple of years... Damn, why must my style evolve? Was so happy with my gear... heiko It's a shame you feel that your style has evolved in a way that takes you away from what you're used to. Personally I would think your clients want you for the work you've done and seems like most was on Leicas. Most pros I know are going the opposite and trying to get rid of the DSLR and get slimmed down. Is it really a change of style or are you trying to justify selling your Leica gear? Are you being pulled by what the wedding market feels as being 'in vogue' especially with 'reportage' shooting - could this be a reason behind your thought process? Just thinking out loud.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest malland Posted July 27, 2013 Share #29 Posted July 27, 2013 heiko, I've looked at you interesting blog and found the following statement among the negative factors of the M9: "ISO, for me it works OK up to 800, but it is barely usable above that. In B&W you may push it to ISO 1600. Yes, Leica has fast lenses, but other brands has as well. When it gets too dark, reception covering for example, and the subjects move fast, like dancing, I need to use flash (long exposure, makes nice light trails in the picture)." I don't know how importantly high-ISO performance figures in you decision, but there is a technique that substantially improves the M9 performance in this resect, which is discussed in a thread here, which may be of interest to you, called, M9 Colors at Night — Best Way to Shoot High ISO?. —Mitch/Bangkok Bangkok Obvious [WIP] Eggleston said that he was "at war with the obvious"... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlashGordonPhotography Posted July 27, 2013 Share #30 Posted July 27, 2013 After two years of shooting the M9 at weddings I've decided that I just don't want to shoot ONLYthe M9 at weddings. But I also don't want to not shoot the M at weddings. When I transitioned from Canon to Leica I got a small AF system to fill the holes in the Leica line up (a long zoom and a macro, mainly). When The M240 was announced I thought that would be it. But now that's not going to happen. I've decided that I like having complimentary systems. I much prefer all my natural light stuff with a rangefinder. But for anything with flash the M9 is just unbalanced. And although I do regularly use the foot focus from page 1, I find I'm just reaching for my AF camera. At the moment that's an Olympus EM5. But if the XPRO2 focus better I may change to that. The EM5 and the two fast zooms, plus a macro compliments the M9 really well. So my vote is to just let each camera find its natural place in the day. Gordon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptZoom Posted July 27, 2013 Share #31 Posted July 27, 2013 Mitch, You're method would require the OP to be in full manual mode, something he's currently having difficulty with in the direction his style is heading. Also it's not clear to me if the OP still owns the M9. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptZoom Posted July 27, 2013 Share #32 Posted July 27, 2013 Frogfish, From what I've read, the Fuji X100 series cameras can be fantastic tools. In fact, I'm saving up for one (literally saving change for it, since I do not want its purchase to detract from purchases for my main system). But, the X100 series seems like an odd choice given your need for odd (low) angles and the X100 series not having a tilting or articulating screen. Some of the offerings from the m4/3 or NEX line seem like better choices. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted July 27, 2013 Share #33 Posted July 27, 2013 heiko, I've looked at you interesting blog and found the following statement among the negative factors of the M9: "ISO, for me it works OK up to 800, but it is barely usable above that. In B&W you may push it to ISO 1600. Yes, Leica has fast lenses, but other brands has as well. When it gets too dark, reception covering for example, and the subjects move fast, like dancing, I need to use flash (long exposure, makes nice light trails in the picture)." I don't know how importantly high-ISO performance figures in you decision, but there is a technique that substantially improves the M9 performance in this resect, which is discussed in a thread here, which may be of interest to you, called, M9 Colors at Night — Best Way to Shoot High ISO?. —Mitch/Bangkok Bangkok Obvious [WIP] Eggleston said that he was "at war with the obvious"... Love you Mitch. You are persistent. I knew your post was going to some how end up with a link to that thread of your's about pushing the M9's crappy high ISO. If, we ever cross paths, I'll buy you a drink. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest malland Posted July 27, 2013 Share #34 Posted July 27, 2013 Mitch,You're method would require the OP to be in full manual mode, something he's currently having difficulty with in the direction his style is heading. Also it's not clear to me if the OP still owns the M9... CaptZoom, in full manual mode, yes; but he essentially wouldn't have to fiddle with ISO, aperture, or shutter speed. RickLeica, don't knock what you haven't tried — and I like the results that I'm getting. My feeling is that frogfish might like the results also, having seen his photography on his blog. Didn't you know that "having seen the light" (literally and figuratively), I've become an evangelist. —Mitch/Pak Nam Pran Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted July 27, 2013 Share #35 Posted July 27, 2013 RickLeica, don't knock what you haven't tried — and I like the results that I'm getting. My feeling is that frogfish might like the results also, having seen his photography on his blog. —Mitch/Pak Nam Pran Mitch, come on, I tried this last year when I had the M9 and this was being mentioned here. I didn't find it much of an improvement over just shooting straight higher ISO. The problem with the M9 sensor is that it suffers from color sensitivity and tonal range limitations as well as noise and decreased dynamic range at higher ISO or when pushed in PP. There may be some limited improvement when pushed in PP, but this isn't the place to discuss this. Do you have to keep highjacking every thread to link to your thread? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest malland Posted July 27, 2013 Share #36 Posted July 27, 2013 RickLeica, look, my friend, I am not highjacking this thread: I genuinely think that frogfish may like the technique. You are de-routing the thread by writing what you have written here instead of simply sending me a PM. I'm grateful to you for having helped to push me off the fence to get an M-Monochrom, but on the subject here, I simply don't agree because I, unexpectedly, find the M9 to be a much better high-ISO camera than I thought. —Mitch/Bangkok Bangkok Obvious [WIP] Eggleston said that he was "at war with the obvious"... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zlatkob Posted July 27, 2013 Share #37 Posted July 27, 2013 The EM5 and the two fast zooms, plus a macro compliments the M9 really well. So my vote is to just let each camera find its natural place in the day. Which two fast zooms are you using on the EM5? That is an interesting choice. I haven't yet tried this camera, but must try it sometime. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikasmg Posted July 27, 2013 Share #38 Posted July 27, 2013 Hi, Shall I sell my M and get the Fuji x100s or am I simply plain stupid and should sit it out, being this just a phase? (I know, how can you possibly answer this...) Any ideas how to proceed? (Yes, seeing a psyciatrist, I know) Good news. You don't need a shrink. You just need me. How much can I offer you for your neglected M :-)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted July 27, 2013 Share #39 Posted July 27, 2013 RickLeica, look, my friend, I am not highjacking this thread: I genuinely think that frogfish may like the technique. You are de-routing the thread by writing what you have written here instead of simply sending me a PM. I'm grateful to you for having helped to push me off the fence to get an M-Monochrom, but on the subject here, I simply don't agree because I, unexpectedly, find the M9 to be a much better high-ISO camera than I thought. —Mitch/Bangkok Bangkok Obvious [WIP] Eggleston said that he was "at war with the obvious"... I agree, sorry. I'll still buy you a drink. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogfish Posted July 27, 2013 Author Share #40 Posted July 27, 2013 Hi guys, still have my M9 but use the m now for most occasions, because, it is a better camera by far. Hi Gordon, nice to see you here my friend. I manly use two cameras on weddings, the M (9) with a 35/1.4 and a nikon with the 85/1.4D. I feel I need the fast AF of the DSLR in this focal lenght to get snappy candids. I don´t feel my style changes because I try to copy anything hip in the wedding industry. The contrary is the fact: I try to make "something new" in an approach not widely used in the industry. In fact I have not yet seen anyone doing this. In the moment I just feel strongly I need to express myself more, doing candid "kick-ass" pictures and not the old standard "bright, shallow DOF, pastel look" everyone else is doing. I really would love to use my M´s, I often considered going full Leica (like 28/50) on two bodies... I am in love with them but when I can make better pictures with other gear? That is my dilemma... keep it coming, is helping me to see others opinion on this. heiko Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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