I like film...(open thread)

[rpavich]

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really nice B&Ws.  Is that Agfa a 6x9?

 

It's a 6x6. 

I bought it from certo6.com restored to like new condition. It's pretty fun to shoot. My wife doesn't like it because nothing's automatic

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[Doc Henry]

I agree with Klaus.  We only live once and if you want it you should get it, no matter how irrational it might (and I stress subjectiveness of "might") be.

 

Yes Adam, I agree too. It is necessary to please yourself   

 

It's a 6x6. 

I bought it from certo6.com restored to like new condition. It's pretty fun to shoot. My wife doesn't like it because nothing's automatic

 

RP tell your wife , "nothing automatic" it works the meninges of the brain and people live longer ....

I spoke previously of age, this explaining this little notice    

 

really nice B&Ws.  Is that Agfa a 6x9?

 

I agree with Adam.

 

RP Superb b&w pictures and glad see you back among us

 

Best

Henry

Edited September 25, 2016 by Doc Henry

[Doc Henry]

With Apo Telyt 135 long focal ,  you can also shoot "near" too

 

Rose in long focal 

 

Kodak Portra 160

Apo Telyt 135Asph

Tripod

Leica M7

 

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Henry

[Doc Henry]

 

More layers of earth from a crater near the Dead Sea

Velvia 50, SWC

layers fo earth.jpg

 

Adam , nice natural color of rock , probably calcareous rock

Nice composition with blue sky

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Henry

[robert blu]

Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful!

 

Coming back to this thread always surprises me in a nice way, I can take a trip and never leave my chair.

 

My wife and myself went to a local historic state park here in West Virginia this weekend with the intention of getting at least one shot that's worthy of putting on a post card and mailing out.

 

I took my Nikon FM2 and 24mm f/2.8 and she took her Agfa Isolette III.

 

We got quite a few keepers from two rolls of film but here are two that I think will make the post card. (The square crop is the Agfa MF camera)

 

 

 

 

 

Two beautiful pictures from two good photographers, without need of any "automatic assistance" !

robert

PS: long time I do not shoot my FM2, time to...

Edited September 25, 2016 by robert blu

[Doc Henry]

Henry,

 

Colour for me too, not primarily because of the colour, but because of the larger angle of view, which IMHO suits the subject better.

Just comparing colour vs B&W impression, I prefer colour too due to the subtle hues in the sky. The B&W may have benefitted from an orange filter or the like to add contrast.

 

Best regards

 

Christoph

Thanks Christoph for your choice and comment

Best

Henry

[DirkR440]

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Leica M2 with 50mm Summilux and Fuji Acros 100

 

Singapore on film by Dirk Raffel, auf Flickr

[gbealnz]

Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful!

 

Coming back to this thread always surprises me in a nice way, I can take a trip and never leave my chair.

 

My wife and myself went to a local historic state park here in West Virginia this weekend with the intention of getting at least one shot that's worthy of putting on a post card and mailing out.

 

I took my Nikon FM2 and 24mm f/2.8 and she took her Agfa Isolette III.

 

We got quite a few keepers from two rolls of film but here are two that I think will make the post card. (The square crop is the Agfa MF camera)

 

 

 

Beautiful shot, especially from an older folder, very nice. Looks a bit foggy though, it shows in the shot of the camera and your wife

And here's Henry thinking that using a manual camera will lengthen the life expectancy, LOL.

Keep em coming RP, especially the Agfa shots, they're nice.

Gary

 

[Sparkassenkunde]

James very relaxing color for a relaxing picture

Thanks James

Best

H.

  

Really nice this picture

A great shot and beautiful color James

Regards

Henry

  

I like this one James by the natural look

a family resemblance ?

Also a great picture well done James

Best

Henry

Thank you for your feedback! All the pictures are from our family vacation. I used about ten rolls of film, and there where some good shots among. As my fridge is full with different sensors, I am now thinking about selling some of the digital stuff...

[philipus]

Hi Adam, I'm sorry for the delay in replying. I was at photokina on Saturday and today was spent running an obstacle course (which is also how photokina felt, incidentally).

 

I didn't mean to divert the thread from its picture focus (which is so much more important than the technology behind, all imho) in order to discuss equipment, so apologies for causing a longer diversion.

 

I only noticed a minor thing I thought could benefit from correction (about the Summilux being recomputed/redesigned for digital, rather than the overall underlying reason) and that you thought it odd that people buy lenses like this one and the 50 APO "for just film".

 

My take on film photography is that there has never in the history of humankind been a better time than now to shoot film, from a purely technical perspective that is. I agree with you, power to those who do buy such lenses. We are lucky to be alive today and and able to access both the vast amount of classic lenses, that are still around delivering pleasant more traditional (or, if you will, jam-packed-with-optical aberrations to create the erroneously but mystically entitled Leica 'glow', sigh) results, and current extremely competent lenses that really bring out every ounce of detail that the recording medium used is able to register.

 

All this to say that I disagree, respectfully, on the cost-benefit point because it is quite plausible that also a photographer, who has chosen film not digital as the medium for his or her artistic expression, finds that only the optically-technically best lenses will enable that expression. Then again, many (actually most) film photographers will not feel the same. Personally I like both. I derive the same satisfaction from shooting with Berek's dog, the 2,8cm f6.3 Hektor as I do from my 50 Summilux Asph.

 

But, and now coming back to the real reason this thread is this forum's most active thread month after month, as so many others here, I get the most satifaction from just using film regardless of what camera or lens I used. At the obstacle course today I used a Fuji water- and shockproof disposable fix-focus camera and if any of the pictures turn out decent enough to show here I will post them.

 

br

Philip

 

Wow, who said that??!  For the avoidance of doubt, it wa'n't me, as I was making a "cost benefit" point, not a "useful" point, which are two completely different concepts.  

The fle is a $5K lens.  A good pre-asph 35 lux with no focus shift is about 1/3 of that price.  To me, if I want sharpness, I'd go with the cron, even a modern cron at a fraction of the price.  If I want more film qualities and dreamy bokeh, I might also consider the pre-ash lux and try to deal with the focus shift (which I agree I probably would obsessively worry over.).  As much I as love my 35mm fle, the one thing that I don't get much of is dreamy bokeh.  Often, when I try to shoot something wide open, more stays in approximate focus than I want.  The old lenses don't do this and I think that on film especially this dreamy quality really hits home.

 

Full disclosure, I don't plan on parting with my 35 lux fle in my lifetime...

[A miller]

 

 

All this to say that I disagree, respectfully, on the cost-benefit point because it is quite plausible that also a photographer, who has chosen film not digital as the medium for his or her artistic expression, finds that only the optically-technically best lenses will enable that expression. Then again, many (actually most) film photographers will not feel the same. Personally I like both. I derive the same satisfaction from shooting with Berek's dog, the 2,8cm f6.3 Hektor as I do from my 50 Summilux Asph.

 

But, and now coming back to the real reason this thread is this forum's most active thread month after month, as so many others here, I get the most satifaction from just using film regardless of what camera or lens I used. At the obstacle course today I used a Fuji water- and shockproof disposable fix-focus camera and if any of the pictures turn out decent enough to show here I will post them.

 

br

Philip

 

Hey Philip - Sounds like you had a blast.  And that Fuji underwater disposable camera sounds like a ball of fun (do they come packed with Velvia 50? ).  Thanks for sharing that.

 

You make some great points, and all are valid in my mind.  And I agree that the cost-benefit is certainly subjective and there are people out there who may feel that the benefit outweighs the cost.  It is just that once you get up into the stratosphere of $8K for a single 35mm lens (referring tot he 50mm APO), you start to get into the budget of some really seller MF and LF optics and gear, which has lots more surface area and therefore potential for more than satisfactory resolution.  Still, a reasonable person might feel that they don't want MF/LF.  I wouldn't think they'd be totally crazy.

Edited September 25, 2016 by A miller

[philipus]

The Dubrovnik Coca Cola thingy at the Ploce gate entrance to the old town.

 

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[philipus]

Yes I agree, those are all completely fair points. I certainly see the benefit of larger negatives. One gets pretty incredible results with 120 film and equipment as compared with 35mm film, and for so much less money overall.

 

Incidentally, and veering off just a bit bit, but just because it was discussed earlier and I think I should post back, the new Hasselblad mirrorless MF camera is nice (understatement of the day). 

 

I wish that the disposable had had Velvia in it but alas not. It came with a Superia 800 which could only be exposed at 1/125th. But, in light of the constant spray of water and mud that the camera had to endure for 12km, I have a feeling that the low specs will have had a comparably little effect on the photos. On verra

 

 

Hey Philip - Sounds like you had a blast.  And that Fuji underwater disposable camera sounds like a ball of fun (do they come packed with Velvia 50? ).  Thanks for sharing that.

 

You make some great points, and all are valid in my mind.  And I agree that the cost-benefit is certainly subjective and there are people out there who may feel that the benefit outweighs the cost.  It is just that once you get up into the stratosphere of $8K for a single 35mm lens (referring tot he 50mm APO), you start to get into the budget of some really seller MF and LF optics and gear, which has lots more surface area and therefore potential for more than satisfactory resolution.  Still, a reasonable person might feel that they don't want MF/LF.  I wouldn't think they'd be totally crazy.

[EoinC]

"Restaurant at the end of the Universe" - Heading upriver in Papua New Guinea ~1990 (Fujichrome)...

A011 by Eoin Christie, on Flickr

[EoinC]

I want to show you this picture taken with the Apo Telyt 135 Asph

 

For field depth effect , I thought I do not have it in this photo

or the foreground sharper in the first plan gives the bridge in background a perspective effect

4 hills behind with its blur effect (a little foggy that day) gives an reinforced effect of this perspective.

In the end, a tele lens here a 135mm is perfectly compatible with a landscape photo  !

and film highlights very well this effect without "smoothing" aspect due to pixels and camera software !

 

 

Taking from a building at 70 meters

One of the largest bridges and with a very "avant-garde" architecture 

 

Leica MP - Apo Telyt 135 Asph (tripod) - Kodak TMAx100 (Kodak D76 developer)

 

Image1pontdanapotelytkodtmaxmpfeslfht++++900+++.jpg

 

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Henry

This is great, Henry.

[EoinC]

Building a pump-powered no-nails raft for upriver exploring (Fujichrome)...

A012 by Eoin Christie, on Flickr

[EoinC]

Sailing in the Buccaneer Archipelago, North Western Australia, 1986 (Fujichrome)...

A014 by Eoin Christie, on Flickr

 

...and selfie in Nakhon Phanom, Mekong River, 1986 (Fujichrome)...

A015 by Eoin Christie, on Flickr

[Doc Henry]

Sailing in the Buccaneer Archipelago, North Western Australia, 1986 (Fujichrome)...

A014 by Eoin Christie, on Flickr

 

...and selfie in Nakhon Phanom, Mekong River, 1986 (Fujichrome)...

A015 by Eoin Christie, on Flickr

Eoin outstanding pictures and series Superb color

Very well done !

Camera and lens ?

Thanks for posting

Regards

Henry

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[Doc Henry]

This is great, Henry.

Thanks Eoin for watching and commenting. I just find the comment of Erwin Puts about this lens.

 

Erwin Puts wrote :

 

"High overall contrast,outstanding clarity of small picture details, very clean colors and subject outlines

with high edge contrast are the trademark of apochromatic correction as practiced by Leica.

At full aperture the Apo-Telyt extends the picture possibilities of the M body with an image quality that is unrivaled".

 

....and this :

 

"Apo Telyt M designed by Horst Schröder is a great example of a design that combines the special requirements of M (light weight and small volume) with another feature of M lenses: an impeccable optical performance.

With only five lens elements (to reduce weight 450g) the designer has calculated a masterpiece with the support of engineers from the production department.

The peculiarity of the Apo Telyt is its high contrast, no flare and images with higher resolution and extremely fine details ... the goal behaves wonderfully at all openings in silver . The layer of silver halide has a thickness of about 15 to 20 microns, which allows a certain depth in the tolerance of the mechanical precision of focus".

 

Leica recommends using Apo Telyt to a maximum aperture of  f / 5.6  to increase the depth of field

That said Apo Telyt is a beautiful lens , one of the best goals in the current line to the rangefinder camera.

Artistically this focal length is very well suited for vivid and sharp portraits and for discrete documentary photography"

 

Interesting comment.

My bridge picture is done exactly at f/5.6 !

 

Best

Henry

Edited September 25, 2016 by Doc Henry

[EoinC]

Eoin outstanding pictures and series Superb color

Very well done !

Camera and lens ?

Thanks for posting

Regards

Henry

Thanks, Henry. I Just made a quick trip back home and uncovered hundreds of slides that I didn't know I had. The camera would have been a Canon F1N, and the lens a FD 17mm. I also found both of them (and brought them back with me), and an old Kowa 6, which I passed to my daughter (and she went and shot some films with before I left).