wda Posted March 31, 2007 Share #1 Â Posted March 31, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have read many references to noise reduction software in the Forum and have decided to try Noise Ninja. I would welcome any hints and tips on using this plug in on Windows and PS CS2 especially how to reduce loss of sharpness during the noise reduction. Â My first very quick test, the 30 second help briefing, gave quite convincing results. However, like most complex software, there is a learning curve. I have to say that I have been impressed with the Help built into the software. Rare these days. Â Thank you. Â David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bradhusick Posted March 31, 2007 Share #2 Â Posted March 31, 2007 David, First profile the image. Then, the default settings are 10 and 10 for luminence and chrominence noise reduction. Try setting them both to 1 and slowly increase them until it just gets rid of enough noise. Do the luminence first. I typically end up with about 4 or 5 for each. Then, set the sharpening to zero and use a better sharpening product like Nik Sharpener Pro. Â -Brad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted March 31, 2007 Share #3 Â Posted March 31, 2007 David, Â I agree with Brad's remarks. I have been using NN for nearly a year now and am very happy with it. The first temptation is to overdo the corrections which will produce plastic like results. Back off as Brad said and settle for a little less correction. The result will be much better. Â I am using it with PS CS and manually set for each image. I am too lazy to set up more complex techniques that are offered. I don't use NR on most of my images, especially M8 files, which seem to have a quality of their yhat carries noise better than, say a scanned film. Just personal taste, like most of what we do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen.s1 Posted March 31, 2007 Share #4 Â Posted March 31, 2007 How does NN compare with the "same" corrections in CS3? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertwright Posted April 1, 2007 Share #5 Â Posted April 1, 2007 you might want to try Raw Developer, it has some very effective and flexible noise reduction and sharpening. Amazing product really for 99 bucks. I don't know that I'd want to do all my raw coversion in RD, but for high iso I can't find anything better so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
intex Posted April 1, 2007 Share #6 Â Posted April 1, 2007 Does Noise Ninja work as a plug-in for Lightroom, or do you have to use the standalone version? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Roberts Posted April 1, 2007 Share #7 Â Posted April 1, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Noise Ninja rocks. I'm waiting, though, for someone to write some all-purpose noise profiles for the M8 Meanwhile, it's image by image. Â FWIW, I just talked this week with the author of Bibble Pro, which supports the M8 and input profiles too (though they're still tweaking the base M8 colour). He showed me a demo and it was impressive. Â Bibble Pro also includes a Noise Ninja plug-in, so you get to reduce noise right in the RAW file. The program includes it as a basic function, but you can get the full-blown plug-in to work in Bibble. Very nice indeed; I think something similar will be available for C1 in the next version too (IOW it will have a plug-in architecture). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken_tanaka Posted April 1, 2007 Share #8 Â Posted April 1, 2007 Just get it. It's an essential tool, particularly with high-iso M8 images. There is no real "learning curve". The software is almost push-button. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ennjott Posted April 1, 2007 Share #9 Â Posted April 1, 2007 I've been using Neat Image (too bad it's Windows software) and had excellent results with around 60% chroma & 40% luma noise reduction. Leaving in more luminance noise gives the noise "filmlike" appearance and avoids smoothing out details. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morffin Posted April 1, 2007 Share #10 Â Posted April 1, 2007 I use Neat Image as a CS2 plug in on my Mac...works great and you can include it in your ACTIONS ... so batching is simple...works great on 1600 iso shots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wda Posted April 1, 2007 Author Share #11 Â Posted April 1, 2007 I use Neat Image as a CS2 plug in on my Mac...works great and you can include it in your ACTIONS ... so batching is simple...works great on 1600 iso shots. I see that a rival has entered the equation: Neat Image. Has anyone tried both solutions and thus has some basis for comparison? Â Thanks to all who have replied so far. Â David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjmcsu Posted April 1, 2007 Share #12 Â Posted April 1, 2007 I use both as I run dual OS platforms. I have also calibrated my sensors for each camera on both except not lately the M8 on Neat Image.Both programs do a stellar job on luminance high ISO noise but Noise Ninja is definitely faster althugh neither is laboriously long.I would be glad to post some calibrations from noise ninja for the M8 if the forum would like.They were done, however with v 1.09 so might wait till 1.10 comes out & post them @ that point unless others want the earler version to try. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wda Posted April 1, 2007 Author Share #13  Posted April 1, 2007 I use both as I run dual OS platforms. I have also calibrated my sensors for each camera on both except not lately the M8 on Neat Image.Both programs do a stellar job on luminance high ISO noise but Noise Ninja is definitely faster althugh neither is laboriously long.I would be glad to post some calibrations from noise ninja for the M8 if the forum would like.They were done, however with v 1.09 so might wait till 1.10 comes out & post them @ that point unless others want the earler version to try. Francisco  Thank you for your helpful reply. Sorry I cannot take advantage of your M8 offer. However, I assume you made your camera profiles following the PictureCode Help section?  David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joachimeh Posted April 1, 2007 Share #14 Â Posted April 1, 2007 I use Noisware Professional (from Imagenomic) - PlugIn with CS2. It is fast an gives full control on all parameters. I'm pleased with the result. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilfredo Posted April 1, 2007 Share #15 Â Posted April 1, 2007 Noise Ninja has come in handy especially with some of my high ISO M8 settings in low light. As Ken said, it is basically push button. I use it as a Plugin with PSCS. Â Cheers, Wilfredo Benitez-Rivera Photography Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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