PS CS5 transfer from Windows to Mac

[sanyasi]

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That's all very well unless you have a slow, no, or unreliable broadband connection.

 

Pete.

 

If you are referring to the add ons (20gb storage space), your concern may be legitimate. However, the core Photoshop program resides on your hard drive, just as it does now. You can save your files to the cloud, but you can also save them to your hard drive, just as you do now. In short, you are not processing your photos in a web browser. So your hurdle is an initial download of the software and periodic updates. I can't speak for you, but I haven't bought a physical software disk in some time. Boxed software is pretty much a thing of the past.

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[sanyasi]

It is not about pricing, Photoshop never was cheap. But I have a problem with cloud computing in general. We give our privacy in the hands of companies like Google, Microsoft, Apple and now Adobe - I'm not sure I am happy about that.

And another concern: What happens when one ends one's subscription? Does PS disappear from my computer? What happens to my images floating in the cloud?. Etc...

Fortunately there are alternatives.

 

Privacy is certainly a legitimate concern and each person must operate on the web within their own safety zone. Personally I am not too concerned about Adobe. Somewhere in the documentation they say they don't claim a copyright interests in your files. If they are tracking my usage of Photoshop, I am not too concerned. I am much more concerned about marketers tracking my google searches and what amazon is doing with my purchase information, but I still search and buy. It's a cost/ benefit analysis and I don't care if the world knows I downloaded the Great Gatsby to my iPad yesterday. Unfortunately, if you want privacy guarantees, it is time to unplug. That is life on the web. Moreover, I am not too sympathetic to those who use free services. Why should google maintain a massive search infrastructure if they can't monetize it. Want more privacy, look to lexis/nexis, but there is a fee.

[farnz]

... the core Photoshop program resides on your hard drive, just as it does now. ....

Thanks for clarifying this, Jack, it sounded similar to Photoshop Express where iinm the software resides in the Cloud.

 

Pete.

[jaapv]

+1

[jaapv]

Privacy is certainly a legitimate concern and each person must operate on the web within their own safety zone. Personally I am not too concerned about Adobe. Somewhere in the documentation they say they don't claim a copyright interests in your files. If they are tracking my usage of Photoshop, I am not too concerned. I am much more concerned about marketers tracking my google searches and what amazon is doing with my purchase information, but I still search and buy. It's a cost/ benefit analysis and I don't care if the world knows I downloaded the Great Gatsby to my iPad yesterday. Unfortunately, if you want privacy guarantees, it is time to unplug. That is life on the web. Moreover, I am not too sympathetic to those who use free services. Why should google maintain a massive search infrastructure if they can't monetize it. Want more privacy, look to lexis/nexis, but there is a fee.

Well, we are more or less on the same page then. I have anti-tracking software installed on my computer, and Little Snitch.

[leica dream]

I agree that all Sanyasi's and Andy's comments are absolutely correct within the context of keen enthusiastic every day photographers for whom imaging is their prime and overriding hobby or job.

However, there must be many others like myself where photography is not our top activity although attention to detail and perfection are still our aspirations when we do take photographs. Cloud is an excellent idea, but individuals like me cannot justify that on-going cost against the use we would make.

Available funds are a factor, and although I accept that something like WIN XP is prehistoric in software terms and PS 5.1 has been overtaken, 5.1 did not come cheap and all I want to do is utilise the rest of my existing licence to load it on to a second machine which happens to be a Mac platform.

For people like me, the phrase "if it ain't broke don't fix it" sums it up perfectly particularly where the additional facilities in either Windows or Photoshop are of no practical use for our basic needs.

I guess that Adobe goes for the place of most profit, like so many corporations, so the little man loses out. The practical outcome for me is that having shelled out for an expensive piece of premium software my vendor is in effect saying "bin it". That is not acceptable to me.

My quest continues, but the resulting debate on this forum is most valuable....thanks.

I'll let you know the final outcome.

Richard

[sanyasi]

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I agree that all Sanyasi's and Andy's comments are absolutely correct within the context of keen enthusiastic every day photographers for whom imaging is their prime and overriding hobby or job.

However, there must be many others like myself where photography is not our top activity although attention to detail and perfection are still our aspirations when we do take photographs. Cloud is an excellent idea, but individuals like me cannot justify that on-going cost against the use we would make.

Available funds are a factor, and although I accept that something like WIN XP is prehistoric in software terms and PS 5.1 has been overtaken, 5.1 did not come cheap and all I want to do is utilise the rest of my existing licence to load it on to a second machine which happens to be a Mac platform.

For people like me, the phrase "if it ain't broke don't fix it" sums it up perfectly particularly where the additional facilities in either Windows or Photoshop are of no practical use for our basic needs.

I guess that Adobe goes for the place of most profit, like so many corporations, so the little man loses out. The practical outcome for me is that having shelled out for an expensive piece of premium software my vendor is in effect saying "bin it". That is not acceptable to me.

My quest continues, but the resulting debate on this forum is most valuable....thanks.

I'll let you know the final outcome.

Richard

 

I sympathize with your situation. Just to be clear, I am not a professional photographer. I am a hobbyist, albeit enthusiastic.

 

I don't have a good solution for your problem--which seems to be the inability to transfer your CS5 license to a Mac machine if I am following the thread.

 

This may not be an acceptable solution, but have you considered the NIK suite of software as a substitute for Photoshop? It doesn't give you quite the control of Photoshop, but combined with LR, it should get you most if not all of what you are looking for. I think the entire suite can be "purchased" for $149 and that is a one-time cost that I believe allows you to use the NIK tools on two machines.

 

As for Adobe making a profit, two points are worth making. First, I don't have a problem if they make money. That means that Photoshop and LR will be around. I particularly don't have a problem if Adobe makes money because Adobe has not rested on its laurels. I see several of the new features in Photoshop (sharpening and radial gradient tools) as a direct response to the ease of use that NIK has embedded in their programs. Moreover, the fill technology that has been added in the last several editions is great, as is ever improving selection technology.

 

That brings me to my second point. Software does not stand still for one simple reason. Someone is always nipping at the heels of the established player--same can be said for cameras. The established player has no choice but to continually innovate. And that holds true for Microsoft and other makers of operating systems, which results in software companies like Adobe having to continually update the core engines driving their products. In short, I think the marketplace makes it unrealistic to assume you can use the same piece of software for 20 years.

 

In the end, Adobe's new model may be more honest. It says, people had a false sense that this was a one-time purchase. For many if not most people it wasn't. Even if someone's practice was to upgrade every other cycle, they still eventually upgraded. Even those who held out longer probably upgraded when they bought a new computer with a new operating system. In my view, Adobe is simply acknowledging there really never was a perpetual license. No doubt for the photographer/hobbist, the new regime represents a price increase (particularly if you ignore some of the other features like storage space). However, I suspect for many of Adobe's other customers, the change is a price reduction.

 

Best

 

Jack Siegel

[leica dream]

All very true, thanks Jack. I agree that all major corporations need to make money and as you say, it helps to assure continuity.

I had not thought of the NIK software so shall have a look at that now.

Anyway, my cage rattling at Adobe has, to their great credit resulted in a telephone call from them to-day with a very fair and constructive offer which I am considering positively. Does not solve my entire problem but is most generous nevertheless, so I need to consider workarounds at my end.

I am most impressed with the treatment and contacts with Adobe Uk, which speaks highly for their concern for the "little man". In fact, I would go so far as to say that it has surprised me greatly. It would be unfair to declare their offer in a forum such as this, but suffice it to say that Adobe has now certainly listened and understood my problem and reacted. All very much appreciated..............I just need to decide now.

 

I'll post my final outcome in a few days.

Richard

[sanyasi]

If you experiment with NIK, I believe they have a trial version, so need to to commit money until you know you want it.

[leica dream]

The final episode.................

Despite very thoughtful input from Adobe, and their generous offer, their solution still remained above my affordability. I guess that I am now faced with writing off my expensive CS5 software for good when my PC eventually dies. I mourn the wasted money as much as the lost software. A sad situation and a bad investment, but I shall now start finalising what MAC capable system I buy - maybe just simply backwards to Elements , although I see that software has come forward leaps and bounds in recent releases.

My lesson is that as an "occasional" (rather than prolific) photographer I should keep within my affordable means and aspire to just that level of attention to detail which I can afford.......we would all like a Rolls Royce but I guess something more modest is usually more appropriate and affordable.

I shall keep it simple next time around and work with what is available. At least I know that my Leica takes fabulous images as the starting point for any software.

This thread is ended for me now, but grateful thanks for all the responses and ideas.

 

Richard

[k-hawinkler]

Richard,

 

Would Adobe have a problem if you ran CS5 in emulation on your Mac?

You would need Parallels or VMware and a Windows license though.

[leica dream]

That is a new idea, Thanks.

Richard

[jaapv]

Richard,

 

Would Adobe have a problem if you ran CS5 in emulation on your Mac?

You would need Parallels or VMware and a Windows license though.

Mountain Lion is a bit akward with Windows through the loss of Rosetta. I'm not sure CS5 or CS6 would run without problems.

[leica dream]

Thanks, Jaap. My Mac is Mountain Lion so with everything else I am thinking about being new to MAC I'll not waste time on that idea valuable though it is.

Richard

[k-hawinkler]

Mountain Lion is a bit akward with Windows through the loss of Rosetta. I'm not sure CS5 or CS6 would run without problems.

 

 

I have no problem at all with running VMware ontop of Mountain Lion.

It works just fine with the programs I am using, e.g. FoCal.