algrove Posted August 19, 2013 Share #61 Posted August 19, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) With all the Leica gear you own, he might expect that you'd get at least one of his two names right. Jeff At least you knew who I meant. Thanks ffej Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted August 19, 2013 Posted August 19, 2013 Hi algrove, Take a look here Leica M Handgrip availability. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Jeff S Posted August 20, 2013 Share #62 Posted August 20, 2013 Thanks ffej You're welcome, uol. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macjonny1 Posted August 20, 2013 Share #63 Posted August 20, 2013 Leica epic fail here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade Posted August 20, 2013 Share #64 Posted August 20, 2013 I could "understand" if they were having problems with the handgrip with the electronical devices in it, GPS and all - but they could have released the "basic" version? It's all metal and milling, and maybe some leather wrapping on the grip. I really don't understand why. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted August 20, 2013 Share #65 Posted August 20, 2013 On the brighter side, just imagine how exclusive the grips will be after Leica finally squeezes out only 10 or 20 to begin with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted August 20, 2013 Share #66 Posted August 20, 2013 Looking on the bright side as well, at least Leica haven't insulted us with their usual weasel words about demand being unexpectedly high and how their production facilities are overrun and how the concrete donuts which are the new headquarters will solve everything at a stroke. There's no excuse at all for the non-appearance of the R to M adapter, the basic handgrip, the finger loops, the third party microphone set (what else?). With the GPS grip, you can imagine there might be electronic or software problems related to that hardware interface in the base of the camera, camera firmware or power consumption... "The GPS would tell you where you are but the battery won't last long enough for you to get there" What is certain is that once these products do ship, we will need some new M-product announcements from Leica to keep reminding us that announcement date and availability date are not the same thing. Perhaps Leica should look at its own example of the X-Vario where product was available to buy on announcement day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulsydaus Posted August 20, 2013 Share #67 Posted August 20, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) I'm confused, doesn't the camera already come with a charger? I guess you need to be able to charge two batteries at once? How much is the charger worth? Hi John, I feel for you. Maybe it's not worth producing these other items knowing there aren't enough M240s around? Still waiting for mine. But I have a battery charger! Hurrah! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanJW Posted August 20, 2013 Share #68 Posted August 20, 2013 I could "understand" if they were having problems with the handgrip with the electronical devices in it, GPS and all - but they could have released the "basic" version? It's all metal and milling, and maybe some leather wrapping on the grip. I really don't understand why. Agree. For the GPS grip there are no substitutes (to my knowledge). And maybe there are electronic or power issues there. But it is disappointing that the plain vanilla grip is not available, especially considering that RRS was able to design, produce and sell a baseplate and grip before the OEM grip was available. RRS is a small company too. I needed a grip for a trip in June and had no choices other than RRS. The same disappointment goes for the lack of availability of the R to M adapter, which is machined and not electronic in any way. I think Leica is certainly losing out on sales of these items as third party and good quality substitutes are already out there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted August 20, 2013 Share #69 Posted August 20, 2013 Why couldn't Leica have put some sort of battery in the handle of the grip. I imagine that a grip with a battery with the capacity of two batteries would have been extremely popular. Instead we get what amounts to a dummy grip with GPS and connections that could have been on the camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted August 20, 2013 Share #70 Posted August 20, 2013 Why couldn't Leica have put some sort of battery in the handle of the grip. I imagine that a grip with a battery with the capacity of two batteries would have been extremely popular. Instead we get what amounts to a dummy grip with GPS and connections that could have been on the camera. Hi Rick, Great idea! Thanks. You should be on Leica's design team to help them with out of the box thinking, honestly! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macjonny1 Posted August 20, 2013 Share #71 Posted August 20, 2013 Hi Rick' date=' Great idea! Thanks. You should be on Leica's design team to help them with out of the box thinking, honestly! [/quote'] That out of the box thinking that has been done by Canikon for years...grips with batteries! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted August 20, 2013 Share #72 Posted August 20, 2013 That out of the box thinking that has been done by Canikon for years...grips with batteries! That's right. I have several of those grips for D200, D300, and D800E. Even better I like the builtin grip of the D3. But clearly for our Leica friends it's out of their box thinking, isn't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted August 20, 2013 Share #73 Posted August 20, 2013 That out of the box thinking that has been done by Canikon for years...grips with batteries! No kidding? Who would have thought. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brusby Posted August 20, 2013 Share #74 Posted August 20, 2013 Are there schematics available for the connectors for the EVF and the one under the baseplate? We could roll our own with a trip to a machine shop and a bit of solder. 'Been wanting to figure out a way to use decent microphones with the EVF anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted August 21, 2013 Share #75 Posted August 21, 2013 Are there schematics available for the connectors for the EVF and the one under the baseplate? We could roll our own with a trip to a machine shop and a bit of solder. 'Been wanting to figure out a way to use decent microphones with the EVF anyway. You can buy the Olympus microphone - it is the same. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Olympus-SEMA-1-Microphone-Adapter-Set/dp/B002WB149G/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1377061392&sr=8-3&keywords=Microphone+for+Olympus+Pen Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brusby Posted August 21, 2013 Share #76 Posted August 21, 2013 You can buy the Olympus microphone - it is the same. Thanks Wilson. 'Appreciate the info, and I may get it. But, if I understand correctly, the Olympus mic can't be used at the same time as the EVF because they both employ the same mount and electronic connection to the camera. I was hoping to get the pin outs for the camera connectors so I could fabricate a stereo mini jack for audio mounted on a baseplate with handgrip and use that at the same time as the EVF. Then almost any self powered or dynamic mic(s) of the correct impedance could be used. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenPatterson Posted August 21, 2013 Share #77 Posted August 21, 2013 Was the GPS working at the beta testing phase? I have a feeling it was not. Perhaps if Chris or Jono are reading this thread, they can let us know. My guess is that is where the problem lies and I would not be surprised if it was battery consumption related. If you are to have a system which can immediately attach a location to a shot, it cannot wait to acquire satellites after switch on but must be regularly updating. That all takes power. Wilson This is really simple stuff from an engineering standpoint, as you don't reinvent the wheel but rather purchase a receiver module/antenna from Garmin or Thales. Less than $10 in quantity and draws less than 10mA. Whatever the reason(s) for the delay I don't think GPS is the problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MediaFotografie Posted August 21, 2013 Share #78 Posted August 21, 2013 ...the handgrip will give us some other opportunities: Lightroom 5 comes with tethering for M (240): Tethered camera support | Lightroom 5, 4, 3 but we need usb for this... greetings thomas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade Posted August 21, 2013 Share #79 Posted August 21, 2013 Why would you even bother with tethering from the grip... heard those wifi sd cards works swell! Anyways - I would second a motion for the battery on the grip, but then the grip would be fairly large! Imho, a slightly different approach is to have one or two rechargeable AAA battery slot on the grip (where you wrap your fingers) that can serve as an extra boost. It may not be as much as the original battery, but it does extend that period of life should you incase need it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsmphoto Posted August 21, 2013 Share #80 Posted August 21, 2013 Why would you even bother with tethering from the grip... heard those wifi sd cards works swell! Slow, slow , slow transfer rate compared to tethering. No good for any pro. When combined with Leica Image Shuttle the tethering will be quite nice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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