mjh Posted April 13, 2013 Share #41 Posted April 13, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) My Sandisk Extreme Pro cards (16 and 32 GB) were preventing my M from going to sleep. I’ve had no issues with a SanDisk Extreme Pro 16 GB so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wlaidlaw Posted April 13, 2013 Share #42 Posted April 13, 2013 I’ve had no issues with a SanDisk Extreme Pro 16 GB so far. Michael, I think that is the point. Apparently identical cards are behaving differently. In my case a card which SanDisk tests as OK, is causing problems in the M240. My two other identical spec cards, one of which was bought from the same seller at the same time, are behaving perfectly. On the problem card, I got lock ups, failure to write anything other than the file name and failure to delete images properly, leaving the file number behind on the lowest image. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barjohn Posted April 13, 2013 Share #43 Posted April 13, 2013 If you can put the same card in your computer and read and write to it and/or format it the problem is with the camera and not the card. On the lug issue, if I recall correctly it has two screws not one so I am not sure how you work two screws loose. Finally, the size of the engineering force has very little to do with the quality of the engineering be it software or hardware. In fact, if anything, I would say they are inversely proportional. The bigger the engineering group the more likely you will get an inferior bug ridden product. As someone that has managed and worked software development for over 50 years I can tell you that I can produce better cleaner code with a small highly skilled team than with a larger team that will include many more average players as a natural consequence of its size. Further, the small team will produce the code faster. Big teams require much more overhead in coordination of interfaces and settling disputes and disagreements than small ones. That is why in the military special ops teams can accomplish much more disproportionate to their size. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted May 4, 2013 Author Share #44 Posted May 4, 2013 Experienced several more freeze ups today. This time I was using the EVF and the battery was low. The battery showed several bars left but kept popping up the warning. Then at least 4-5 times the camera would freeze with an image frozen on the EVF. power cycle returned back to operation but then the EVF wouldnt power up. I pulled the battery and re-inserted and it all started working fine again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
photolandscape Posted June 21, 2013 Share #45 Posted June 21, 2013 M(240) locked up on me twice yesterday, and both times I had to pull the battery out to reset. Not quite ready for prime time, which is why I had my Canon as a backup. I'm hoping every day for a firmware update. Have just started using my M, though I picked it up three weeks ago. I have taken it out 3X. On two occasions, when I turned it on, there was no response whatsoever. Tried the off/on switch 2X, and no response. Had to stop, miss the action I was trying to photograph, open up the bottom plate, yank out the battery for a few seconds, reinsert and when I did, it worked as it should. I recall having this issue with my original M8, but rarely if at all with the M9. I don't think it's an SD Card issue, unless the cards that served me so well with the M8 and M9 aren't compatible with the M. Would like any thoughts on what the problem is, and whether it would warrant sending to NJ for a look. Will withhold judgement on a number of other points until I really get some time with the M. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olsen Posted June 21, 2013 Share #46 Posted June 21, 2013 M(240) locked up on me twice yesterday, and both times I had to pull the battery out to reset. Not quite ready for prime time, which is why I had my Canon as a backup. I'm hoping every day for a firmware update. Stephen, What kind of memory card are you using? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted June 21, 2013 Author Share #47 Posted June 21, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Have just started using my M, though I picked it up three weeks ago. I have taken it out 3X. On two occasions, when I turned it on, there was no response whatsoever. Tried the off/on switch 2X, and no response. Had to stop, miss the action I was trying to photograph, open up the bottom plate, yank out the battery for a few seconds, reinsert and when I did, it worked as it should. I recall having this issue with my original M8, but rarely if at all with the M9. Ive never experienced this. Was the card formatted in camera? 95% of the time mine works fine...its the 5% that is frustrating. Waiting patiently on a FW update, which is long overdue Leica. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted June 21, 2013 Share #48 Posted June 21, 2013 Experienced several more freeze ups today. This time I was using the EVF and the battery was low. The battery showed several bars left but kept popping up the warning. Then at least 4-5 times the camera would freeze with an image frozen on the EVF. power cycle returned back to operation but then the EVF wouldnt power up. I pulled the battery and re-inserted and it all started working fine again. I had a few freezes in the first few days I had the camera ...... ...... then nothing till I got two new batteries ...... ... and now nothing again since they have all been used several times. .... which would make you think that this yet again a voltage control problem... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
photolandscape Posted June 21, 2013 Share #49 Posted June 21, 2013 Thanks, good question. I have 3-4 cards and will be sure to format in camera. Like you, really hoping for firmware fixes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted June 21, 2013 Author Share #50 Posted June 21, 2013 I had a few freezes in the first few days I had the camera ...... ...... then nothing till I got two new batteries ...... ... and now nothing again since they have all been used several times. .... which would make you think that this yet again a voltage control problem... hmmm...you might be on to something here. I have the same experience. I have three batts and come to think of it it could be related. I haven't experienced any issues in awhile, the first time I had a problem was when camera was new...then later had issues about the time I received the new batts. Now all is good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastgreenlander Posted June 22, 2013 Share #51 Posted June 22, 2013 I shot a roll of Tri-X on my MP today. There was no issues with my camera as it runs smooooth. Just wanted to cheer op the M 240 owners Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick De Marco Posted June 22, 2013 Share #52 Posted June 22, 2013 I have the same freezing problem - I would guess every 40 exposures - but random - so sometimes I might take 100 without a freeze other times only 4-5. I have tried 2 different sandisk 16gb cards and 1 new 32 gb card. Tried shooting single or on continuous. Either ways problem repeats so it is obviously a problem with the camera. It is not acceptable, because of course it happens when I see a photograph, a decisive moment, raise the camera and it is impossible to use. Leica must fix this. I have to send mine back for strap lugs but I shall be insisting they fix this too. Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbell Posted June 22, 2013 Share #53 Posted June 22, 2013 I shot a roll of Tri-X on my MP today. There was no issues with my camera as it runs smooooth. Just wanted to cheer op the M 240 owners I'm this (showing finger and thumb reeeeeally close together, nay touching) close to just pulling the trigger on an MP and selling off the two M9's. Don't burn me at the stake, but right now I feel Leica are still the best in the works at mechanical and optical. Not so with electronics. So my idea is just to go pure analogue with Leica, and go digital with companies who pioneer, develop, innovate in digital. For me that's canon and fuji at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted June 22, 2013 Share #54 Posted June 22, 2013 I'm this (showing finger and thumb reeeeeally close together, nay touching) close to just pulling the trigger on an MP and selling off the two M9's. Don't burn me at the stake, but right now I feel Leica are still the best in the works at mechanical and optical. Not so with electronics. So my idea is just to go pure analogue with Leica, and go digital with companies who pioneer, develop, innovate in digital. For me that's canon and fuji at the moment. I agree with your basic assessments of Leica's, Canon's, and Fuji's strength and would add Sony's sensors to that. But going back to film seems a drastic step I wouldn't contemplate for myself. Once one has learned the workarounds for the M9 it can be a reliable camera. I am sure you know all about that. And in terms of RF focusing my M9 works very well with my M lenses. I had hoped to use the M240 also with R lenses, but I have other cameras for that and can wait especially as the M seems subpar for EVF use. So, I am enjoying use of my M9 and other cameras and feel no stress at all waiting for the M. I think I prefer first for Leica to get on top of their production and reliability issues with the M before I get my copy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bybrett Posted June 22, 2013 Share #55 Posted June 22, 2013 I have the same freezing problem - I would guess every 40 exposures - but random - so sometimes I might take 100 without a freeze other times only 4-5. Nick Wow if I ever decide to "upgrade" to M for weddings the camera will need serious field testing beforehand and a couple of M9 back ups. Not unusual to test and back up but this a confidence breaker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbell Posted June 22, 2013 Share #56 Posted June 22, 2013 Wow if I ever decide to "upgrade" to M for weddings the camera will need serious field testing beforehand and a couple of M9 back ups. Not unusual to test and back up but this a confidence breaker. It's all Jenoptiks fault and if they would..... Oh wait, wrong script. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbell Posted June 22, 2013 Share #57 Posted June 22, 2013 I agree with your basic assessments of Leica's, Canon's, and Fuji's strength and would add Sony's sensors to that. But going back to film seems a drastic step I wouldn't contemplate for myself. Once one has learned the workarounds for the M9 it can be a reliable camera. I am sure you know all about that. And in terms of RF focusing my M9 works very well with my M lenses. I had hoped to use the M240 also with R lenses, but I have other cameras for that and can wait especially as the M seems subpar for EVF use. So, I am enjoying use of my M9 and other cameras and feel no stress at all waiting for the M. I think I prefer first for Leica to get on top of their production and reliability issues with the M before I get my copy. I know what you mean. But the lack of massive body depreciation relative to initial outlay is attractive. The Leica Ms just appear to be behind the curve and buggy when they're released, only to get more so as time goes on, where other digital cameras are storming ahead. I can't see this trend going any other way. An MP would free me of that annoyance and give me my rangefinder fix. Nasty noise on the M9 would be replaced by 'character of the film', the truly hideous recock whine by a trusty cathunk, and it will never be out of date. You know? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted June 22, 2013 Share #58 Posted June 22, 2013 I know what you mean. But the lack of massive body depreciation relative to initial outlay is attractive. The Leica Ms just appear to be behind the curve and buggy when they're released, only to get more so as time goes on, where other digital cameras are storming ahead. I can't see this trend going any other way. An MP would free me of that annoyance and give me my rangefinder fix. Nasty noise on the M9 would be replaced by 'character of the film', the truly hideous recock whine by a trusty cathunk, and it will never be out of date. You know? Yup, but I need my digital fix with instant feedback! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelpa78 Posted September 11, 2013 Share #59 Posted September 11, 2013 I have the M 240 since 10 days and I experienced just one freeze so far. This could be a minor issue but I can't help but think about this because my old Panasonic GF1 (4 years old) or my now_sold Sony A3000 NEVER freezed up during their life. Too bad for such an expensive gear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bab Posted September 15, 2013 Share #60 Posted September 15, 2013 I have the camera set to sleep after two minuets I always have one or two freeze up per shoot. Need to pull battery to resume. I'm trying to get a grip on when or why but seems to be the wake up freeze syndrome. Has happened when first starting camera and after about 45-60 min after camera has been on. Sure bet...I'm not out shooting trying to figure out how and why I'm out shooting...very annoying though when it happens! Regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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