wellyau Posted April 5, 2013 Share #1 Â Posted April 5, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hey all, Â I've got a roll of HP5+ that I'd like to stand develop. I use Rodinal and D76 as my developers. Wondering if anyone has any starter times to stand develop my HP5+ in either of these developers? Â Cheers! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted April 5, 2013 Posted April 5, 2013 Hi wellyau, Take a look here Stand developing HP5+ in either rodinal or D76. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
earleygallery Posted April 5, 2013 Share #2 Â Posted April 5, 2013 B&W Film Developing Times | The Massive Dev Chart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanzlr Posted April 5, 2013 Share #3 Â Posted April 5, 2013 James, massive dev chart only has data for regular development, not stand, if I am not mistaken? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPerson Posted April 5, 2013 Share #4 Â Posted April 5, 2013 When I do stand it is with Rodinal 1:100 dilution for 1 hour at 20C. Intial 30 secs inversion at start, tap tank on work surface and leave. At the 30 mins mark I do just one slow inversion, tap, leave. Once the hour is up, water stop and alkaline fix. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted April 5, 2013 Share #5 Â Posted April 5, 2013 Ah, my mistake. Â What's the benefit of stand development? I've never tried it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
honcho Posted April 5, 2013 Share #6 Â Posted April 5, 2013 Â What's the benefit of stand development? Â Potentially extended tonal range and a couple of bottles of ale while you wait. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipus Posted April 5, 2013 Share #7 Â Posted April 5, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) When I do stand it is with Rodinal 1:100 dilution for 1 hour at 20C. Intial 30 secs inversion at start, tap tank on work surface and leave. At the 30 mins mark I do just one slow inversion, tap, leave. Once the hour is up, water stop and alkaline fix. Â Is this how you develop 5222, Andy? And would stand developing work also with, say, HC110 and that film? Â cheers Philip Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPerson Posted April 6, 2013 Share #8 Â Posted April 6, 2013 Philip - I have done it with 5222. and worked fine. I have not tried stand developing with anything other than Rodinal so cannot comment on HC110. Â I usually do stand when I have changed ASA throughout the roll for various reasons. Not so much now, as I have a Jobo ATL-1500. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellyau Posted April 7, 2013 Author Share #9 Â Posted April 7, 2013 Potentially extended tonal range and a couple of bottles of ale while you wait. Â Mostly the latter! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellyau Posted April 7, 2013 Author Share #10 Â Posted April 7, 2013 When I do stand it is with Rodinal 1:100 dilution for 1 hour at 20C. Intial 30 secs inversion at start, tap tank on work surface and leave. At the 30 mins mark I do just one slow inversion, tap, leave. Once the hour is up, water stop and alkaline fix. Â Fab, thank you. I'll try that out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobey bilek Posted April 8, 2013 Share #11 Â Posted April 8, 2013 If stand was a preferred way to develop film, Kodak & Agfa would have it in their instructions. Â Run a test strip of 6 exposures. Do not cut the overexposed leader off so you can see the bromide streaks when you hold it up to the light. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipus Posted April 10, 2013 Share #12 Â Posted April 10, 2013 I read in this write-up about stand development using Rodinal that it would be possible to expose one and the same roll at different EI and get ok results. Has anyone tried this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsgary Posted April 19, 2013 Share #13  Posted April 19, 2013 Here's a few examples of HP5 stand developed in Rodinal  35mm 1 hour stand      120 HP5 shot at ISO1600 2 hour stand   Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipus Posted April 20, 2013 Share #14  Posted April 20, 2013 Many thanks Gary for posting those shots. They look fabulous. I'm impressed. Did you agitate halfway or?  Cheers  Philip Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsgary Posted April 22, 2013 Share #15  Posted April 22, 2013 Many thanks Gary for posting those shots. They look fabulous. I'm impressed. Did you agitate halfway or? Cheers  Philip  I agitated for first 30 seconds then 1 halfway, i have just done an ordinary developement adding 18grams of sodium sulphite to Rodinal and i might try it in a stand developement, this is one of them, i love to experiment one of the main reasons i have not shot any digital for 7 months  Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leica Fanatic Posted July 26, 2014 Share #16 Â Posted July 26, 2014 Here's another article on stand developing, with a twist and a video as well. Â Warning: The guy goes on a bit. Â http://www.streetphotographyblog.co.uk/906/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted July 26, 2014 Share #17 Â Posted July 26, 2014 I read in this write-up about stand development using Rodinal that it would be possible to expose one and the same roll at different EI and get ok results. Has anyone tried this? Â That's an unnecessarily verbose article. All he had to write is, "High dilution stand development (in Rodinal) works by processing to completion - the exhaustion of the developer, therefore the same time/temp can be used for any film." Â One hour is overdoing it. 40 minutes gives the same results. Â "The same roll at different EI" is bull. Any film can be regarded as different EI on the same roll if you consider latitude. Â It's a silly article, but a good study in self-deception. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted July 27, 2014 Share #18 Â Posted July 27, 2014 I read in this write-up about stand development using Rodinal that it would be possible to expose one and the same roll at different EI and get ok results. Has anyone tried this? Â I get the sense of what he means, but it is fundamentally flawed. Â A far better option to stand development is to use a compensating developer, such as Diafine. True if you don't have any Diafine then Rodinal and stand development gets you somewhere along the road. But the stand development cult is largely based around photographers imagining they are out there pushing the boundaries and exploring the edge of the envelope, when in fact there are developers under their noses that do a far better job, and at normal developing times, and with far better results and consistency. But Rodinal worship is a powerful cult and hard to break free from. Â If not Diafine then DiXactol (good for medium format), or to really push the boundaries mix your own using Jay De Fehr's 'Obsidian Aqua' (good for all formats) formula. Â Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hiles Posted July 31, 2014 Share #19 Â Posted July 31, 2014 Tetenal`s Neofin Blue is also a fine compensating developer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted July 31, 2014 Share #20 Â Posted July 31, 2014 Tetenal`s Neofin Blue is also a fine compensating developer. Â Â Indeed, it is however it diminishes acutance which a person likes or not in the trade-off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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