rramesh Posted April 3, 2013 Share #21 Posted April 3, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Well everyone was clamoring for more interchangeable options - lens, EVF, base plate etc. Now we can proudly add lugs to this list. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted April 3, 2013 Posted April 3, 2013 Hi rramesh, Take a look here Leica M strap lugs unscrewing (merged). I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Guest borge Posted April 3, 2013 Share #22 Posted April 3, 2013 So what happens if the lugs fall off and the body plus lens (let's say a APO-Cron 50/2 or Noctilux 0.95 ASPH) falls smack down into the ground and gets damaged? I assume Leica will take full responsebility and repair both the camera and lens for free. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted April 3, 2013 Share #23 Posted April 3, 2013 So what happens if the lugs fall off and the body plus lens (let's say a APO-Cron 50/2 or Noctilux 0.95 ASPH) falls smack down into the ground and gets damaged? I assume Leica will take full responsebility and repair both the camera and lens for free. I've seen plenty of threads on this forum about the failing lugs, but so far no major damage has resulted - it would be interested to see how Leica respond to such a claim, which can only be a matter of time........ How much do these stupid errors cost Leica I wonder? The man hours in repairs, the cost of shipping, and potential costs for consequential damage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
george + Posted April 3, 2013 Share #24 Posted April 3, 2013 Bad news, particularly to the owner(s). Sorry Evan. But, ugh, stuff happens and we do not know the frequency of this. I am pretty certain that Leica will fully stand behind their products. Including backup loaners. And I just hope that no major recalls will be required. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted April 3, 2013 Share #25 Posted April 3, 2013 Tell me again the benefits of being an early adopter...? Regards, Bill Sent from another Galaxy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salander Posted April 3, 2013 Author Share #26 Posted April 3, 2013 Tell me again the benefits of being an early adopter...? I get to try it out and see if it fits with my workflow. As a professional who makes 100% of my income through photography, I need to make sure the files, editing, and ability to do the job are there, and trying a camera early doesn't hurt. I have other camera that I mainly shoot with, and I wanted to see if the M could support, or even take over the roles of the other cameras. It's not the easiest camera to use, and clients hate it when you can't tether, but I love the feel of shooting with the M. It's a very spontaneous camera. It helps you concentrate on the creative, and worry less on the technical. That's why I love the M over my slr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest borge Posted April 3, 2013 Share #27 Posted April 3, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) I need to make sure the files, editing, and ability to do the job are there, and trying a camera early doesn't hurt. So as a professional photographer who makes 100% of your income from your photography: How do you deal with the white-balance issues of the M240? Correct each and every file manually? Sounds like a PITA to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bybrett Posted April 3, 2013 Share #28 Posted April 3, 2013 So as a professional photographer who makes 100% of your income from your photography: How do you deal with the white-balance issues of the M240? Correct each and every file manually? I can answer for myself and my M9 - we shoot a fixed Kelvin value and then batch process. I would do the same for any digital M. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salander Posted April 3, 2013 Author Share #29 Posted April 3, 2013 What is a pita? The tech will import all the files into capture one, do a white balance off the color card, then the art director and i will edit the shot until we have 1or 2 selects. Then I'll do a manual white balance according to my taste, adjust exposure, contrast and saturation, and then process the shot out as tiff. Then, I'll bring it into photoshop and fix and wrinkles and retouch areas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbell Posted April 3, 2013 Share #30 Posted April 3, 2013 Tell me again the benefits of being an early adopter...? Regards, Bill Sent from another Galaxy You get to shoot an M at ISO higher than 800 that doesn't look crappy before 2015? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest borge Posted April 3, 2013 Share #31 Posted April 3, 2013 What is a pita? Pain In The Ass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted April 3, 2013 Share #32 Posted April 3, 2013 Don't know about the M but in the M8/M9/MM, getting at those screws to tighten them is a major major job requiring virtually the entire camera to be dismantled. It's scarcely believable that Leica does not use Loctite. Perhaps they do and the person in Portugal forgot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salander Posted April 3, 2013 Author Share #33 Posted April 3, 2013 Just got the call from Leica NJ. Camera has to go back to Germany. Ugh Anyone use bottom, tripod socket mounting straps? How do you like them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbell Posted April 3, 2013 Share #34 Posted April 3, 2013 Glad they didn't rush this out before it was ready. Oh, no, hang on... Glad we haven't forked out thousands for class leading build quality. No, wait... This is a mature product, this is the M9 refined .... Except the lugs, that's the same sh1t. I tease, don't shoot me down, just having fun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmradman Posted April 3, 2013 Share #35 Posted April 3, 2013 Don't know about the M but in the M8/M9/MM, getting at those screws to tighten them is a major major job requiring virtually the entire camera to be dismantled. It's scarcely believable that Leica does not use Loctite. Perhaps they do and the person in Portugal forgot. It is easy to pass the blame onto Manuel, it is down to enforcing, or not as it may be the case, company quality control procedures - every business nowadays have some sort of quality control. We are constantly reminded why Leica products are expensive - manufactured by highly trained and paid European workers and involve zillion quality control steps along the way, truth may be extra margin to cover for warranty repairs. For a small volume manufacturer there should be no excuse. A while back i read on Erwin Puts web site that his best camera is his MP which he personally assembled form Leica provided parts (don't ask for reference it was on old site), maybe Leica should offer DIY kits to those with good screwdriver dexterity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trylab Posted April 3, 2013 Share #36 Posted April 3, 2013 Two of my Leica x1 hit the ground and was damaged because of this. Both were replaced by Leica. Loctite was applied to the third camera. 90 days before Leica replaced my last camera. Leica should have learned by now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgenper Posted April 3, 2013 Share #37 Posted April 3, 2013 OMG, why did I read this thread? Had to check my M9 (delivered in February 2010, and working flawlessly ever since then), and... sure enough: the left eyelet wobbles a LOT! D...MN! Has to go to Solms (or is it Wetzlar already?) first thing tomorrow. What will I DO without it? Still: better to find out now than dropping camera plus lens within the near future.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trylab Posted April 3, 2013 Share #38 Posted April 3, 2013 Per, be happy that your Leica will return checked and secured with Loctite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted April 4, 2013 Share #39 Posted April 4, 2013 The types of screws commonly used in this task have a small amount of thread locking compound on the end. Tightening the screw spreads the compound around the thread and locks the screw. I've seen this when I replaced the lens mount on a Nikon D3x where there is a similar imperative for the screws not to come loose. The fact it has to go back to Germany suggests a big job which NJ are not yet equipped to do. Leica will be checking urgently that this is an isolated example. A recall to replace the strap lug retaining screws doesn't bear thinking about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanG Posted April 4, 2013 Share #40 Posted April 4, 2013 Tell me again the benefits of being an early adopter...? I could understand there being issues occasionally with new technology. But how long has Leica been attaching strap lugs? Don't they know how to do this by now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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