Mark Pedley Posted August 21, 2013 Share #81 Posted August 21, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Indeed..... rant mode on..... I really don't understand why anyone wants to take photos of a gig on a cameraphone from the middle of the crowd. Assuming they even end up with an image that isn't a blur, or a patch of blown highlights in the darkness, what do they do with them? They stand their watching a live gig from the small LCD of their smartphone, instead of putting the damn thing away and just enjoying the event. I read a recent article in a medical psychology journal recently about this. The article discussed a new phenomena of a need to have personal experiences "validated" by others ie upload to Facebook (immediately), collect "Likes" from friends. Only when validated by friends is the experience complete. They cannot enjoy without the connection. The article went on to describe how (young) people are losing the ability to disconnect, and are becoming more and more dependent on others to confirm they are "OK". A dangerous trend. Worrying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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philipus Posted August 21, 2013 Share #82 Posted August 21, 2013 Reminds me of this in the latest edition Facebook is bad for you: Get a life! | The Economist Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted August 22, 2013 Share #83 Posted August 22, 2013 Anyone who transgresses and the phone rings or pings, has to leave with the rest of their meal uneaten. With my cooking, any excuse to leave food uneaten is regarded as a prize worth grasping... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gberger Posted August 22, 2013 Share #84 Posted August 22, 2013 My grandchildren believe I'm retarded, as I don't have either a Facebook or a Twitter account - - - just a desktop Mac and one of those Jitterbug cell phones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomasis7 Posted August 23, 2013 Share #85 Posted August 23, 2013 Im relatively young and I stopped to use Faceboo, twitter . New life awaits for me.:D:D On another hand, I believe films will get popular as youngsters seek out for therapy purpose. the curve points up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym911 Posted December 27, 2013 Author Share #86 Posted December 27, 2013 I will be going to NYC for New Year with the family and plan again on going with one camera and lens. The only thing I am debating is whether to take same M4 and 35 Cron or my trusted old Rolleiflex which I have been enjoying recently.... Will probably decide an hour or two before departing, have lots of film for both. Keep you posted as to what I decide for and will post some snaps on my return.. Best Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kivis Posted December 27, 2013 Share #87 Posted December 27, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Love my M3 with CV Heliar 50/2. Use it 95% of the time. But I always keep a Elmarit 90/4 in the bag. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
findranger Posted December 27, 2013 Share #88 Posted December 27, 2013 Going back and fourth between 28 and 35 right now and will hopefully settle with one of the two for most of my work somewhere in the future (50 is my supertlele and gets mounted not too often). Right now I try to stick to the 28. But I find the process of finding your favourite focal lengh also very rewarding artistically, even if it adds some weight to your bag. Makes you really think about FOV, perspective etc. during the shooting and analysing process. Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith (M) Posted December 27, 2013 Share #89 Posted December 27, 2013 I will be going to NYC for New Year with the family and plan again on going with one camera and lens.The only thing I am debating is whether to take same M4 and 35 Cron or my trusted old Rolleiflex which I have been enjoying recently.... Will probably decide an hour or two before departing, have lots of film for both. Keep you posted as to what I decide for and will post some snaps on my return.. Best Andy Depends whether you intend to emulate Elliot Erwitt or Vivian Maier! PS - whichever camera you choose, I look forward to seeing the results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomB_tx Posted December 27, 2013 Share #90 Posted December 27, 2013 Love my M3 with CV Heliar 50/2. Use it 95% of the time. But I always keep a Elmarit 90/4 in the bag. Yes, the Heliar does have nice character. While I normally use a Summicron more on my M9, I realize a few shots taken with the Heliar stir stronger emotions. It is a lens that works better with practice, so you understand its properties. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colmac Posted January 10, 2014 Share #91 Posted January 10, 2014 I will be going to NYC for New Year with the family and plan again on going with one camera and lens.The only thing I am debating is whether to take same M4 and 35 Cron or my trusted old Rolleiflex which I have been enjoying recently.... Will probably decide an hour or two before departing, have lots of film for both. We have been talking about visiting NYC later this year especially after Hermann Landshoff Exhibition in Munich yesterday. So don't forget to let us in on your (film) camera gear. Appreciate it. Col Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblitz Posted January 11, 2014 Share #92 Posted January 11, 2014 M4 and 35mm works fine in NYC ….. might want a wider lens to capture some of the buildings, but other than that, it is all you need as along as you are committed to one lens Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted January 11, 2014 Share #93 Posted January 11, 2014 The outside of the viewfinder frame on the M4 is not a million miles away from being correct for a 28mm. I have just had a total overhaul on mine done by Peter at CRR in Luton, including new frame mask and it looks and feels almost like it did in 1967. Wilson Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/201625-the-joy-of-one-camera-one-lens/?do=findComment&comment=2507229'>More sharing options...
sblitz Posted January 11, 2014 Share #94 Posted January 11, 2014 i have the m6 classic, m4 and m9 -- and nothing beats the sound of the m4 shutter. it is, to my aged ears, perfection….. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr. B Posted January 12, 2014 Share #95 Posted January 12, 2014 I spent the day shooting with my M6 and my 35mm Summaron. Great lens and had a good time. Mr. B Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted January 12, 2014 Share #96 Posted January 12, 2014 i have the m6 classic, m4 and m9 -- and nothing beats the sound of the m4 shutter. it is, to my aged ears, perfection….. I am told this is because all the gears, cams etc on the M4 are brass or bronze. The cost accountants arrived between the M4 and M4-P/M4-2 and demanded economies. This meant some of the gears were changed to either moulded nylon or steel stampings, which don’t run as sweetly. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_g_wolf ✝ Posted January 12, 2014 Share #97 Posted January 12, 2014 >> Wilson This only had to do with demands to withstand additional gearstress after introducing the M-motorwinder. Exchanging bronze with tougher metals during M4-2-production also changed the feel of the "gearbox", sadly. No nylon in there, AFAIK Best GEORG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted January 12, 2014 Share #98 Posted January 12, 2014 >> Wilson This only had to do with demands to withstand additional gearstress after introducing the M-motorwinder. Exchanging bronze with tougher metals during M4-2-production also changed the feel of the "gearbox", sadly. No nylon in there, AFAIK Best GEORG Georg, Thanks for that info. I believe the nylon or plastic gears are in the film counter part of the mechanism but this may only be from M6 onwards. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
imsilly Posted January 12, 2014 Share #99 Posted January 12, 2014 Georg, Thanks for that info. I believe the nylon or plastic gears are in the film counter part of the mechanism but this may only be from M6 onwards. Wilson My understanding is that only the later M6 have plastic gears in the film counter. You can google the exact change in parts. It's during the mid 1990s, but it was never officially stated when, so you just have to guess a little. There are serial number lists stating metal and plastic gears. I think my was just before any change was noticed and it's from 1995 I think. One bigger problem I hear less about, but is in actual fact a much bigger issue in my experience is the metal alloy mix in the top-plates of M6 cameras. I was told early M6 cameras were more collectible, but most of the examples I saw had massive amounts of bubbling due to corrosion under the black chrome finish. Leica ballsed up a lot of M6 cameras early on and I always thought it was best to go as late as possible in the run as you dared to avoid it. In my books small modifications like gear material changes make very little difference overall. What you tend to get is a swings and round-a-bouts situation, where one change gives you one benefits and loses another. In my experience it really boils down to how much you like the feel, sound and action of a particular camera. Even saying that it tends only to be Leica nerds that actually think that is important. I for one have never ever given much thought to the butteriness of winders, or sounds of shutters. It doesn't effect in any way at all your photos. I've used M3s which felt like crap and M6s that felt amazing. Most of the feel aspect comes down to years or use and maintenance. It's far more likely the type of life a camera has lead determines feel much more then the model itself, because from the M3 to MP there isn't much difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthWater Posted January 14, 2014 Share #100 Posted January 14, 2014 I think my M6 Classic and DR Summicron is the perfect OCOL setup for me. But lately I've been thinking about adding a second body to my camera bag. One with either color film or pushed B&W for when the light goes dim. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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