Susie Posted March 11, 2013 Share #1 Posted March 11, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi All, Well today the poor postie struggled up the path with a dustbin sized chunk of chromed brass and glass: my newly aquired Summarex! I'm chuffed to bits with it and just wanted to share it with you: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Not shown is the lens cap, back cap and uv filter that came with it. The eagle eyed amongst you will see that I'll have to use my 9cm finder for the time being! I also understand the previous comments about this lens: the camera screws to it, not the lens to the camera! Best wishes Susie Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Not shown is the lens cap, back cap and uv filter that came with it. The eagle eyed amongst you will see that I'll have to use my 9cm finder for the time being! I also understand the previous comments about this lens: the camera screws to it, not the lens to the camera! Best wishes Susie ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/200324-pride-comes-before/?do=findComment&comment=2268154'>More sharing options...
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M9reno Posted March 11, 2013 Share #2 Posted March 11, 2013 Thanks for showing it. Please go on and post what the lens can do! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted March 11, 2013 Share #3 Posted March 11, 2013 Well done, Susie !! The Summarex hasn't suffered the trip from Italy, I suppose... (btw... of course it would be fine to couple it with a proper 8,5 cm viewfinder... but the SGOOD is terribly rare and costly... ... and even more the Summarex' fine leather case ENOOW ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted March 12, 2013 Share #4 Posted March 12, 2013 Congratulations, Susie! I notice that it came with the hard to find and expensive hood, which should help with contrast. I hope you'll post some pictures you take with it. Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted March 12, 2013 Share #5 Posted March 12, 2013 Nice to see a Summarex on a screw-mount Leica. Though... did you manage to use the rangefinder with the hood on top of the lens? When I tried I found out that the ridge of the hood is exactly in the center of the rangefinder-window of the IIIf. Focussing therefore becomes a hit and miss trial, but is certainly not what you are used to with the camera. There are many variations for the hood and mine is not the earliest version, but looking at it, it made me think that the Summarex was never designed for the screw-mount Leicas. I know that the lens was only produced with screw-mount and was introduced during a time when there was nothing else. Though from a practical point of view the Summarex certainly is a lens for the M. It's also funny and revelatory just to look at it fixed to the different bodies when you put the combination on a table: With abscrew-mount body the lens with hood has a completely "wrong" angle: the camera is set back much too low and the lens sticking out fat and out of proportions in an 45-degree angle. With an M body and lens are - almost - exactly aligned... This is an M-lens avant la lettre. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted March 12, 2013 Share #6 Posted March 12, 2013 ...and, indeed, I use mine on M only... and is worth to do : much better than the 1st Summicron 90... even at f1,5 vs. f2... and at medium closures it's even better than the Elmar 3 elements. The issue you quote about the hood is REAL... lot of years ago, I used it on my IIIc... always hoodless (focus and THEN mount the hood was a bit annoying... ... the problem is that one can't keep home the hood... you must mount it to use the original cap... but I found a trivial rubber cap which fitted onto) Summarex is one of the reasons for I think to M240... Liveview can be useful, and, above all, I never decided to chase for a UVIR filter to use it on M8... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susie Posted March 13, 2013 Author Share #7 Posted March 13, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi Guys, Thank you for your kind comments regarding my new lens. I must admit, I have had a bit of a purge at home, clearing out lots of stuff I no longer want; no not Leica. I made that mistake 17 years ago when I traded my M3, rigid 50mm Summicron and 35mm f/2.8 Summaron in when I bought my M6 and modern lenses! It was a toss-up between trading in the M3 or M2 and not knowing better, the M3 went and I kept the M2 and its lenses. This lack of an M3 will be rectified soon I think. This sell-off has left me a bit flush, hence the Summarex and a collapsable 9cm f/4 Elmar. The 85/90mm range of lenses is my favourite focal length. The latter came complete with the leather case. By the way, should the Elmar have a deeper than normal end cap to enable the lens to collapse completely when off the camera? A few details about the Summarex: S/n 940840 which put it as 1951 I think, cranked dof lines in black with a red index line. Scaled in feet with a 1/4" tripod bush. The only odd thing I find is that it would seem to focus beyond infinity! However, checking it against known distances, the index line is correct. The glass is in very good condition, no marks at all (the lens came with a Leica UVa filter) and the body, although not mint, only shows any real marking where the hood it pushed on and turned to engage the bayonet. Luigi, I cannot concur with your notion of the Summarex being like a piece of jewellery: it is too big and heavy! To me its beauty lies in the precision of its engineering! Although the hood does impinge on the view through the rangefinder of the 111f, because of the contrast of the two images having had a new beam splitter fitted at the recent CLA, focussing is not at all difficult. The test film will be run through using an M camera though, so I can test the Elmar at the same time. Best wishes, Susie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted March 13, 2013 Share #8 Posted March 13, 2013 ...(the lens came with a Leica UVa filter) ... Can you put on and remove the hood without difficulties with the Leica UV-filter, and does the lens cap stick when the filter is on? I got a 58mm B+W UV-Filter to protect the front lens - though with the filter placing and removing the hood always needs some force, and the lens cap will never stick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susie Posted March 13, 2013 Author Share #9 Posted March 13, 2013 Can you put on and remove the hood without difficulties with the Leica UV-filter, and does the lens cap stick when the filter is on? I got a 58mm B+W UV-Filter to protect the front lens - though with the filter placing and removing the hood always needs some force, and the lens cap will never stick. The hood slides on okay both ways with the filter fitted, but you're right in saying that the cap drops off! The cap fits on the hood, but the filter sticks out beyond and is obviously smaller in diameter. I have noticed before that the outer diameter of Leitz filters are slightly smaller than other makes which might explain why you need to use a bit of push to get it on. It might be a case of using the correct cap when the lens is at home in the cabinet, and one that will clip into the threads of the filter when the lens is in use! Susie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted March 13, 2013 Share #10 Posted March 13, 2013 Hi Guys, Thank you for your kind comments regarding my new lens. .... This sell-off has left me a bit flush, hence the Summarex and a collapsable 9cm f/4 Elmar. The 85/90mm range of lenses is my favourite focal length. The latter came complete with the leather case. By the way, should the Elmar have a deeper than normal end cap to enable the lens to collapse completely when off the camera? Susie In theory yes... but as far as I know such an end cap does not exist... ... I tried with an end cap that is deeper than normal (the one for Super Angulon 21 f 3,4) but didn't fit well (I seem to remember... was a trial I made years ago...) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted March 13, 2013 Share #11 Posted March 13, 2013 Sorry Susie... I must correct my previous assertion (checked at home tonight) : if you retract completely the Elmar 4/90 you CAN fit on the back the end cap made for the Super Angulon 21 (and for the Elmarit 28 1st); my memory failed... : it results in a well protected and compact item : 72 mm length with both caps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc_braconi Posted March 14, 2013 Share #12 Posted March 14, 2013 here is my Summarex and I know the problem about the filter: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/200324-pride-comes-before/?do=findComment&comment=2270775'>More sharing options...
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