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Why 28mm is not as popular as 35mm on FF M?


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The perspective is the same (as if shot by 50mm from the same distance) in the crop. I will certainly admit that the it is not exact equivalent picture since the DOF is different (and hence the OOF area is going to be rendered differently). So I give it to you that the crop is not *exact* equivalent to having a 50mm lux, that's why I have the 50mm lux too. :)

 

BTW, Sony RX1 does the same to give you a equivalent cropped output.

 

I admit to being a bit rusty here but IIRC the DOF from the same distance at the SAME aperture with either lens will be the same. Only the framing will be different. OTOH, if you FILL the frame with the motif, then both perspective and DOF will be different for each lens.

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Actually a good thread with some interesting info and I loved the posted pics too.

 

FWIW the esteemed New York photographer Joel Meyerowitz is caught on film in the BBC2 documentary series The Genius Of Photography using an M6TTL with a Summicron 28mm ASPH. These days, if you watch his short films in the Leica blog section, he's using an M(240).

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The 28 Summicron works beautifully on the M240. Am I going to be tempted by a 28 Summilux? Well maybe. I held out a long time from buying a 28 Summicron in the hope that a 28 Summilux would arrive, managing with a 28/2.8 ZM Biogon and MATE in the meantime. I am just wondering however, if I have enough big heavy lenses for my M240 and the small size and low weight of my pair of Summicrons (28 and 40-C) are often a pleasure to use just because of this. I suspect the weight of the 28 Summilux is going to be north of 350 grams.

 

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for my M240 and the small size and low weight of my pair of Summicrons (28 and 40-C) are often a pleasure to use just because of this.

 

I usually use the 28 Summicron ASPH and 50 Summilux ASPH paired. I haven't tried the 28 and 40 - interesting idea, thanks. Will try it this weekend.

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Mark,

 

I have had my 40 Summicron “Malcolm Taylored”. It is very distinctly better. Before it would only trigger focus peaking at f4 and above but now it will do so from f2, which is a good indicator of the improvement in micro contrast. There was always supposed to be some discrepancy between the CL (C Lens) RF cams and the standard M. Now I don’t know if this was another thing that Malcolm did but when I cross check with the EVF against the RF, at all different distances, it seems as good as you can reasonably expect. It’s now one of my favourite lenses.

 

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I am just wondering however, if I have enough big heavy lenses for my M240 and the small size and low weight of my pair of Summicrons (28 and 40-C) are often a pleasure to use just because of this. I suspect the weight of the 28 Summilux is going to be north of 350 grams.

 

I'd wonder even more about VF blockage, with RF use of course.

 

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Yes, I agree. I wonder whether those old Leica 28mm external VFs on eBay will start to go up in price.

 

I was not at all interested in the 28 Summilux but having been out photographing Vivid in Sydney this week maybe I'm just starting to warm to the idea of this lens for low light :o.

 

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My only thought is that the next M’s sensor is probably going to be at least one stop more sensitive than the M240’s and push the usable ISO up to say 12800. In that case my 28 Summicron will be able to do at least what a 28 Summilux can do today on the M240. I know there is no price as yet on the 28 but I am betting it will not be a whole lot cheaper than the M-XXX body will be. The only thing the 28 Summicron cannot do is shallow DOF but PS-CS tools can mimic the effect quite well.

 

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