marknorton Posted February 26, 2013 Author Share #121 Posted February 26, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) I agree with you about the Noctilux. It's a niche lens designed for a specific purpose and much too large for more general M photography. As for the APO 50mm Summicron ASPH, It has yet to do much for me but I put that down to my shortcomings as much as anything. I'm hopeful for more clearly superior results on the new camera. To be honest, I think the Summilux ASPH is the best overall 50mm option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 Hi marknorton, Take a look here APO-SUMMICRON-M 50 mm f/2 ASPH has arrived!. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
algrove Posted February 26, 2013 Share #122 Posted February 26, 2013 It works superbly on the MM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent M10 Posted February 26, 2013 Share #123 Posted February 26, 2013 Thank you for the responses so far. Frankly, I hate to think of selling the Noctilux for an APO, but I also hate the idea that it's becoming more of a paperweight than a workhorse. I have MM and wonder if it's worth the trade to get the best results out of the sensor. I have an M9, but haven't used it hardly at all since getting the MM. (If I used the M9 like I did in the past I don't think I'd be in this quandary.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest borge Posted February 26, 2013 Share #124 Posted February 26, 2013 So i ordered mine today. It seems like US got it and Jaap (Netherlands)? Any more in Europe? My dealer told me that no Nordic dealer has got it yet. Is that correct? A forum user (can't remember his name - do a search for apo posts and you'll find him) here from trondheim, Norway, received the lens about a month ago I think. So some Nordic dealers has received it. Apparently Japan Photo in Trondheim is the store in Scandinavia that has the highest sales volume of Leica equipment. They received a couple of MM's right at launch time as well that was not pre ordered to anyone. I accidentally found mine in a box behind their counter, brand new, not reserved, last fall while the rest of the world had long pre-order list.. Kind of strange! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbl Posted February 26, 2013 Share #125 Posted February 26, 2013 Since there are none from scalpers on eBay it certainly seems like there aren't many out there at this point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trond Posted February 27, 2013 Share #126 Posted February 27, 2013 A forum user (can't remember his name - do a search for apo posts and you'll find him) here from trondheim, Norway, received the lens about a month ago I think. So some Nordic dealers has received it. Apparently Japan Photo in Trondheim is the store in Scandinavia that has the highest sales volume of Leica equipment. They received a couple of MM's right at launch time as well that was not pre ordered to anyone. I accidentally found mine in a box behind their counter, brand new, not reserved, last fall while the rest of the world had long pre-order list.. Kind of strange! Hi, that was me, I received the APO50 on the 6th of February. I ordered the lens on the 10th of May 2012, same day as it was announced by Leica. I think I got the first one in Norway. The dealer was FotoVideo.no in Oslo, I think they are the biggest in Norway. I positively know that there were a few more delivered here in Norway. Last week I was on a business trip to San Francisco. I went to visit Camera West in Walnut Creek. They had received one APO 50 the previous week. Best regards Trond Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill W Posted February 27, 2013 Share #127 Posted February 27, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Since there are none from scalpers on eBay it certainly seems like there aren't many out there at this point. So the man with all the 50's is looking for one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted February 28, 2013 Share #128 Posted February 28, 2013 End of January sounds about right as mine was shipped to me on Feb 1st. Two friends of mine also got theirs from the same dealer on the same day, like 31 January. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
koala54 Posted February 28, 2013 Share #129 Posted February 28, 2013 I am also lusting for the APO. Currently very satisfied with the 50 1.5 and the 35 FLE but I want the 50 APO as well for the soon to be mine M240. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbl Posted February 28, 2013 Share #130 Posted February 28, 2013 So the man with all the 50's is looking for one? I can't help myself. I keep hoping if I get enough of them together Oskar Barnack will show up. -jbl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Geschlecht Posted March 1, 2013 Share #131 Posted March 1, 2013 Hello jbl, Actually the people who will most likely show up will be Gustav Kleinberg & Otto Zimmerman. Best Regards, Michael Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted March 1, 2013 Share #132 Posted March 1, 2013 I would love to have a chat with Walter Mandler, wouldn't you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KanzaKruzer Posted March 8, 2013 Share #133 Posted March 8, 2013 I just picked up my 50/2 APO from the local dealer. That completes my 3 lens kit (21, 35, 50). Now I just have to be patient for my M240 before I can use any lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbl Posted March 8, 2013 Share #134 Posted March 8, 2013 Congratulations. I was in the same spot three years ago with the M9. I got bored waiting and rented an M7. Fell in love with film, bought an MP and shot film for three years. I finally got an M9 after the M was announces :-/. -jbl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest borge Posted March 8, 2013 Share #135 Posted March 8, 2013 Japan Photo in Trondheim, Norway has a 50/2 APO in stock by the way. I just tried it out earlier today. The focus throw was very short - even compared to my 50 Summilux ASPH. I guess it is even more difficult to focus quickly and precisely compared to the 50 Summilux ASPH. I find the 50 Nocti easier to focus precisely due to the longer focus throw. Personally I find that the 50 Summilux ASPH´s focus throw is borderline short. The 50 APO´s focus throw was very short. I liked the handling of the 50 Summilux ASPH better. And from the few test shots I can´t see any significant optical difference unless you shoot wide open (which I rarely do, and when I do - I WANT some character, vignetting and "3D feel" - the Summilux provides that at f/1.4. The 50/2 APO doesn´t). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted March 8, 2013 Share #136 Posted March 8, 2013 I guess it is even more difficult to focus quickly and precisely compared to the Summilux-M 50 Asph. You bet! That was the first thing I noticed when I tried this lens for the first time last year. And I DEFINITELY didn't like it I do like the super-natural performance and near-perfect rendition of this lens, though. ... I want some character, vignetting, and "3-D feel"—the Summilux provides that at f/1.4. The Apo 50/2 doesn't. Huh!? But it does! In spades! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest borge Posted March 8, 2013 Share #137 Posted March 8, 2013 Huh!? But it does! In spades! It provides some character, true. There is a difference between f/2, f/4 and f/8. But to my eyes the change from f/4 and f/2 isn´t really that big. The difference in character was small compared to the Summilux that at f/1.4 looks like a completely different lens compared to when it is at f/2 for example. That´s why I really enjoy the Summilux. I feel like it´s two lenses in one due to the big change from f/1.4 to f/2. The 50/2 APO didn´t provide this even though it had some character. I´m glad I got the chance to try it out though. Now I don´t need to think "what if" anymore :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted March 8, 2013 Author Share #138 Posted March 8, 2013 I just picked up my 50/2 APO from the local dealer. That completes my 3 lens kit (21, 35, 50). Now I just have to be patient for my M240 before I can use any lenses. Which 35 and 21? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted March 9, 2013 Share #139 Posted March 9, 2013 Just had a Friday Photographers BS session over some different beers we sample as a group and it was mentioned by a long time Leica guy that the most loved Leica lens for years has been the 50/2.0. He asked why I liked the AA50. I told him on the MM I have NOW three favorites AA50, 50/1.0 and the 40/2.0 and to me so far these three produce the best images for me with the APO 50 being the best of the bunch. He will be printing my favorite MM shot 24x36 or 48x60 very soon. It so happens it was shot with an APO 90/2.0. This guy is a printer for our Photo Centre and today printed on 4 different Epson printers over 120 prints of various sizes for an exhibition we are having very soon. The largest print was a 48x72. The detail was just amazing. He regularly prints M9 images 24x36 and often larger. He has printed MM prints 36x60 with detail available beyond that size so he says. I have seen them all and I have no reason to dispute his comments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KanzaKruzer Posted March 9, 2013 Share #140 Posted March 9, 2013 Which 35 and 21? LEICA APO-SUMMICRON-M 1:2/50 MM ASPH LEICA SUMMILUX-M 1:1,4/35 mm ASPH LEICA SUPER-ELMAR-M 1:3,4/21 mm ASPH Sold six DSLR lenses (Nikon and Zeiss) to help fund the rangefinder kit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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