BeerNutta Posted January 7, 2013 Share #1 Â Posted January 7, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi guys, Â I was using a voigtlander 35mm lens today and found that it was much easier and clearer to focus with then my summilux 50mm. Then I tried the zeiss 24mm and noticed that it too was much easier to focus. As in the little square was much clearer. Â I asked the dealer at the leica store about this and he said there was nothing wrong with my lens. Â Has anyone else ever noticed this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaques Posted January 7, 2013 Share #2 Â Posted January 7, 2013 Â ...the little square was much clearer. Â this is kind of impossible - the lens mounted has no affect on the little square (rectangle). With any lens (regardless of if the lens is calibrated well- or how sharp or expensive the lens is)- if you aim the camera at an object and focus from the closest distance to infinity- at some point the object will be equally clear in the little square (rectangle). The point at which it is clear may be (seem?) smaller or larger depending on the focus throw of the camera but the point of equal little square clarity will be there. One some lenses it may be easier to notice this point as it passes by- due perhaps to the focus action... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 7, 2013 Share #3 Â Posted January 7, 2013 Take care your finger does not cover the RF window... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trond Posted January 7, 2013 Share #4  Posted January 7, 2013 Dear BeerNutta,  This is completly impossible.  The little square in the rangfinder is not affacted in any way by the lens mountend on the camera.  It is always the same for any lens of any focal length!  Best regards  Trond Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted January 7, 2013 Share #5 Â Posted January 7, 2013 Yes this is a wandering finger problem. While looking through the viewfinder wave a finger in front of the little window on the front of your camera BeerNutta and see what happens. Then you know what not to do. Most people have done it some time at other, while wearing heavy winter gloves, trying to get into an awkward position to take the shot, or just a newbie mistake. Some lenses tend to put your fingers in different positions as well. Â Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdriceman Posted January 7, 2013 Share #6 Â Posted January 7, 2013 Lenses differ in the way they 'feel' when you focus, but they cannot affect what you see through the viewfinder. Almost certainly a finger problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravastar Posted January 7, 2013 Share #7 Â Posted January 7, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Make sure that both viewfinder windows, large and small, are free from finger grease. A smear on either window can make a big difference in how easy it is to focus. Â Bob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaques Posted January 7, 2013 Share #8 Â Posted January 7, 2013 And this is why there should be little 'window' frames around these windows- as on the M3. I am going to keep saying this until Leica listens and brings them back.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerNutta Posted January 7, 2013 Author Share #9 Â Posted January 7, 2013 Hey Guys.. I know that it should be the same.. Thats why I asked. Â I thought it was weird. I wondered if it was because the other two lenses were constructed differently and therefore made it easier to see the image inside the box. Or is what I am saying also wrong? Â I always assumed the box image was superimposed over the larger image and when focussing, you were moving the large image until it aligned with the smaller image. Â Er.. actually.. I just remembered that I used the two other lenses outside in the middle of the day.. and the lux inside the shop. I then just focussed on a dark door frame vs my monitor. Its a light thing. Duh. Â Also.. No.. My finger was not over the square. If it was... there would have been only one image not two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerNutta Posted January 7, 2013 Author Share #10 Â Posted January 7, 2013 Also, maybe clear is not the right word.. How about the little box was easier to see with the other two lenses then my leica lens. Making it easier for me to align the images? Â I can still focus with my lux but i find that its harder then the voigtlander... Â People are gonna berate me again aren't they? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstlight Posted January 7, 2013 Share #11  Posted January 7, 2013 Some rumors are saying that it is more difficult to focus right with a faster lense  As you've also used the Zeiss, I assume that you haven't considered the lense speed..  And as already said, what you see in the RF window is not comming from the lense!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1JB Posted January 7, 2013 Share #12 Â Posted January 7, 2013 For what it's worth I am more comfortable focusing with my 35 lux than my 50 lux. There's no difference in the focusing area. I find that I fiddle with the 50 more than with the 35 for whatever reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstlight Posted January 7, 2013 Share #13 Â Posted January 7, 2013 Have you tried to focus on the same object with different lenses? Different light = different situation, and this results in different level to focus.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted January 7, 2013 Share #14  Posted January 7, 2013 Hello BeerNutta,  Since the rangefinder windows have absolutely no link to the lens at all it must be because you are either covering the window with your finger, your finder and patch windows are in need of a clean, comparing different lighting conditions, or...you've had one beer too many  I have big hands which get in the way and find I need to clean both the finder and the rangefinder windows often for the very reason you speak of. Using a grip helps as it keeps your fingers away from the window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerNutta Posted January 7, 2013 Author Share #15 Â Posted January 7, 2013 I think it was the difference in light. Because i tested both lenses outside and noticed that it was harder to focus my lux when i was inside the shop. (I was testing a flash) Â As for the finger thing everyone likes to keep telling me. I must be missing something because when my finger is in front of the screen, I cant see the focusing box at all? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerNutta Posted January 7, 2013 Author Share #16  Posted January 7, 2013 Some rumors are saying that it is more difficult to focus right with a faster lense  As you've also used the Zeiss, I assume that you haven't considered the lense speed..  And as already said, what you see in the RF window is not comming from the lense!!  never used a zeiss before.. Only have 2 Leica lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted January 7, 2013 Share #17 Â Posted January 7, 2013 As for the finger thing everyone likes to keep telling me. I must be missing something because when my finger is in front of the screen, I cant see the focusing box at all? Â You don't need to cover the entire patch for it to be a problem. It appears less clear when blocked by just a little bit of finger. It's easy to do when you're not used to it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerNutta Posted January 7, 2013 Author Share #18 Â Posted January 7, 2013 You don't need to cover the entire patch for it to be a problem. It appears less clear when blocked by just a little bit of finger. It's easy to do when you're not used to it. Â Ahhh... gotcha.. Â Now if you can make sense of the Leica SF 24d flash manual for me.. Ill be super happy.. =P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted January 7, 2013 Share #19  Posted January 7, 2013 Ahhh... gotcha.. Now if you can make sense of the Leica SF 24d flash manual for me.. Ill be super happy.. =P  Ha. Good luck - if you work it out let me know. I think that manual is for some other device it just got mixed up in the factory. The 24D does have a mind of it's own altogether as well! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerNutta Posted January 7, 2013 Author Share #20 Â Posted January 7, 2013 Ha. Good luck - if you work it out let me know. I think that manual is for some other device it just got mixed up in the factory. The 24D does have a mind of it's own altogether as well! Â Ha! So its not just me. I've been playing with this TTL for 2 hours.. Sometimes it over exposes.. sometimes it doesnt. Â Gave up.. Now shooting on Manual.. Meaning.. I should have just spent $100 bucks and got the SF 20. =P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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