low.jason Posted December 15, 2012 Share #1 Posted December 15, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi, I have pre-ordered the Leica M, and I am also looking to get the Tri-Elmar 16-18-21. Do you think I should forgo the Frankenfinder since I will also be getting the EVF for the Leica M. I have a M9P now. Thanks, Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FrozenInTime Posted December 15, 2012 Share #2 Posted December 15, 2012 Live-view with wides is perhaps the thing I most look forward to on the M-240. I have the Frankenfinder and if shooting something architectural in nature, I find it essential with film and time saving with the M9 ( I still need frequent chimping to get perfect framing ) However it does suffer one major problem : there is no vertical bubble - just a horizontal one I don't know how good the M-240's LCD will be in sunlight ; I hope it's as good as the Ricoh GRD-IV, which is excellent for 28/21mm framing even outdoors. It would be good not to have to resort to the EVF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
efreed2754 Posted December 15, 2012 Share #3 Posted December 15, 2012 Won't be obsolete for thousands of M film users along with M9, ME and M8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonki-M Posted December 15, 2012 Share #4 Posted December 15, 2012 Won't be obsolete for thousands of M film users along with M9, ME and M8 exactly this. the old Ms arent going anywhere when the Leica M arrives Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokoshawnuff Posted December 15, 2012 Share #5 Posted December 15, 2012 Ive always found that framing, focusing (especially in harsh light), and taking photos is much more difficult with live view than with a VF of some kind; so I would never reject a VF if the only alternative where live view. That's the way I shoot though, perhaps others prefer live view... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted December 15, 2012 Share #6 Posted December 15, 2012 The only pain with an external finder is the to-and-froing between focussing with the rangefinder and composing with the finder .... and then the difficulty in getting the horizon horizontal. An EVF with a true view of the image, focus confirmation and horizontal alignment would be a real help..... Personally I've never had the Frankenfinder out of its leather case .... I've always used an 18mm brightline finder...... the M8 lines match 21mm and the full frame is 16mm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted December 16, 2012 Share #7 Posted December 16, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Live-view with wides is perhaps the thing I most look forward to on the M-240.I have the Frankenfinder and if shooting something architectural in nature, I find it essential with film and time saving with the M9 ( I still need frequent chimping to get perfect framing ) However it does suffer one major problem : there is no vertical bubble - just a horizontal one I don't know how good the M-240's LCD will be in sunlight ; I hope it's as good as the Ricoh GRD-IV, which is excellent for 28/21mm framing even outdoors. It would be good not to have to resort to the EVF. I thought the bubble worked in both directions, no? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
viramati Posted December 16, 2012 Share #8 Posted December 16, 2012 Well if the EVF etc work well etc on the new M I will probably sell mine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravastar Posted December 16, 2012 Share #9 Posted December 16, 2012 I thought the bubble worked in both directions, no? A single bubble works for pitch and roll about a horizontal plane. That is it's situated at the top of a slightly convex cavity lying on a horizontal surface. Rotate the horizontal surface 90 degrees so it's vertical and the bubble is no longer in the cavity center but against it's side at the top. Very annoying with the Frankenfinder when taking vertical shots! Bob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted December 16, 2012 Share #10 Posted December 16, 2012 A single bubble works for pitch and roll about a horizontal plane. That is it's situated at the top of a slightly convex cavity lying on a horizontal surface. Rotate the horizontal surface 90 degrees so it's vertical and the bubble is no longer in the cavity center but against it's side at the top. Very annoying with the Frankenfinder when taking vertical shots! Bob. Thanks. That's the way my Frankenfinder works as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted December 16, 2012 Share #11 Posted December 16, 2012 ... I have pre-ordered the Leica M, and I am also looking to get the Tri-Elmar 16-18-21. Do you think I should forgo the Frankenfinder since I will also be getting the EVF for the Leica M. ... Did you try the EVF? Perhaps I am completely out of date, but I hold an optical viewfinder for much more convenient. The EVF is also much clumsier than even the big Frankenfinder. I hope, not many will think like me, so that optical finders will become cheap on the second-hand market as soon as the M arrives;). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bybrett Posted December 17, 2012 Share #12 Posted December 17, 2012 Personally I've never had the Frankenfinder out of its leather case .... I've always used an 18mm brightline finder...... the M8 lines match 21mm and the full frame is 16mm Nice work! Never thought of that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted December 17, 2012 Share #13 Posted December 17, 2012 The Frankenfinder will become obsolete when EVF makes it so, in much the same way as the Leica M rangefinder has become obsolete due to the advent of the SLR...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill W Posted December 26, 2012 Share #14 Posted December 26, 2012 Maybe I am just old and set in my ways but I am not crazy about live view especially outdoors. I have that capability on my Nikon but never use it. I just cannot compose that way. I prefer a viewfinder and externals are ok for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messsucherkamera Posted December 27, 2012 Share #15 Posted December 27, 2012 I don't know how many of these devices were manufactured, but the Frankenfinder strikes me as an instrument which will be regarded as a curio/relic/oddity and will be highly sought after by Leica collectors one day. They are blocky, cumbersome and butt ugly - but are (apparently) quite functolional. If I owned one I would hang on to it. JMHO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rramesh Posted December 27, 2012 Share #16 Posted December 27, 2012 Nothing in the Leica world becomes obsolete. They just become a collector's item to be treasured. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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