algrove Posted December 30, 2012 Author Share #161 Â Posted December 30, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) I was looking at RRS clamps for the life of me I could not figure which one would work for this lens or any other R lens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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robsteve Posted December 30, 2012 Share #162  Posted December 30, 2012 I was looking at RRS clamps for the life of me I could not figure which one would work for this lens or any other R lens.  You should be fine with the smaller B76 RRS plate and a good ball head like you have. I have been using mine that way for years and my shots are sharp. In addition, with the small plate attached , it will fit in the Leica leather case that came with the lens.  Since I am about to pack the 105-280mm to go off to Leica NJ tomorrow for a CLA, I took the time to get a photo of it on a M. It is mounted to a M7, but with this combo the RRS BH40 only needs the slightest pressure to keep the lens from moving. It is a very well balanced setup and a bigger plate would be superfluous. I will post a photo of the rig in this thread in a few minutes.  Here is the photo. To have it perfectly balanced with a M7, the plate needed to be about 10mm ahead of centered on the ball head clamp. With it centered on the ball head clamp, there was somewhere from 200-400g of weight if I put a little scale under the camera base. Even with it not balanced, the BH-40 required very little tension to stop the combo from moving. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/193142-rate-r-telephoto-lenses-from-best-downward-excluding-module-from-your-own-experiences/?do=findComment&comment=2201377'>More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 1, 2013 Share #163  Posted January 1, 2013 Well, Santa arrived with a 105-280 for me. After I got over the shock of how darn heavy it is, I began to realize why so many talked about stabilizing it for shooting. Now I would need like 15 bean bags in the wild in a vehicle and for a tripod I think the Tour d'Eiffel would do just fine. In all seriousness I do believe Phocus's setup seems a very good approach for tripod use and I will try an RRS long tripod support setup soon. Get a bit of muscle training in I normally shoot it handheld or just a beanbag (or a folded hat ) Somehow I think the concept of a zoom lens is more suited to the dynamism of freehand shooting whereas the more static tripod style would make me reach for a prime. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
topoxforddoc Posted January 1, 2013 Share #164  Posted January 1, 2013 I bet that it’s a really balanced set up on a R9/DMR. I always hand hold my DMRs even with a 180/2 summicron; that gets regularly used at 1/60th or even 1/30th in the photographers pit at concerts. They are heavy, but use them regularly and suddenly they feel lighter! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 1, 2013 Share #165 Â Posted January 1, 2013 It balances excellently on the DMR, Charlie, even with an 1.4x or 2x extender on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted January 2, 2013 Author Share #166 Â Posted January 2, 2013 Well, I will be at Sebring the end of this month and plan to take it and all the R lenses I can fit into a roll on Pelican case. Want to take the 70-180 too. Will leave the 180/2.0 and 280/2.8 at home I believe, but might take the 280/4 if it will fit with the zooms. Â Heck, I just might take a bigger vehicle and take the whole cupboard! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phocus.org Posted January 5, 2013 Share #167 Â Posted January 5, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Manfred- Which QR plate are we looking at in the photos? Thanks. Â It's a plate from Hejnar Photo (Bloomingdale/IL). They are as precise as it can get and feature a very 'hand-flattering' finishing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
naturephoto1 Posted January 5, 2013 Share #168  Posted January 5, 2013 Hejnar rails and other products are available both on ebay:  hejnar in Lenses & Filters | eBay  and from Chirs' website:  Hejnar Photo Store, Serving Your Professional Photography Needs  Chris' products are well made and less expensive than RRS. But, at least until recently they are/were not made to the finish of RRS plates, clamps an rails.  Rich Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted January 21, 2013 Share #169 Â Posted January 21, 2013 Just thought I'd check back in and make a couple of comments on the 105-280 lens I purchased a few months ago and showed a picture of in post #58. Â As I stated on that post I bought the lens in part because jaapv has raved about what a useful range the lens has and that the optics are very close to the APO telys. Â I took this lens with me to Whistler BC along with the smaller 280/f4.0 and I even lugged the 280/f2.8 with me. I found that for what I was shooting the the 280 lenses were too long and not anywhere as versatile as the 105-280. I very much agree with jaapv that although the 280/f4.0 is an incredible optic, it is difficult to justify dragging it along when the almost equally great optic of the 105-280 is available. Certainly for travel the 105-280 would be the choice for an all around tely with incredible optics. Â The 280/f4.0 is a stunning optic for anyone fortunate to own. And, the 280/f2.8 is almost as amazing of an optic and the f2.8 fills a use. But, I would have to say that if I keep just one (will decide for sure once I get the M), it will be the 105-280. It is better than good enough. It is an amazing optic and the versatility makes it the take-along lens for me. If, you can find one (Leica made about 1,500?) I'd recommend it if, the price is reasonable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
naturephoto1 Posted January 21, 2013 Share #170 Â Posted January 21, 2013 Just thought I'd check back in and make a couple of comments on the 105-280 lens I purchased a few months ago and showed a picture of in post #58. Â As I stated on that post I bought the lens in part because jaapv has raved about what a useful range the lens has and that the optics are very close to the APO telys. Â I took this lens with me to Whistler BC along with the smaller 280/f4.0 and I even lugged the 280/f2.8 with me. I found that for what I was shooting the the 280 lenses were too long and not anywhere as versatile as the 105-280. I very much agree with jaapv that although the 280/f4.0 is an incredible optic, it is difficult to justify dragging it along when the almost equally great optic of the 105-280 is available. Certainly for travel the 105-280 would be the choice for an all around tely with incredible optics. Â The 280/f4.0 is a stunning optic for anyone fortunate to own. And, the 280/f2.8 is almost as amazing of an optic and the f2.8 fills a use. But, I would have to say that if I keep just one (will decide for sure once I get the M), it will be the 105-280. It is better than good enough. It is an amazing optic and the versatility makes it the take-along lens for me. If, you can find one (Leica made about 1,500?) I'd recommend it if, the price is reasonable. Â For me and to have options of a smaller and lighter package though perhaps not as good a performer, I think that I will use my f4 80-200mm Vario Elmar and to carry my f4 280 Apo Telyt lens when I can and when I feel I have a need. With the f4 280 Apo it offers me fine usage with the 1.4X and 2X Apo extenders for landscape and wildlife shooting. In those instances when needed for low light I will carry my f2.8 280 Apo. I wil have to compare the performance of my "new" f4 80-200 Vario Elmar with my old f4 70-210 Vario Elmar. My older lens is pretty sharp. It is also a one touch zoom and much lighter than the f4 Vario Elmar lens. If I need a faster operating and still a lighter package, I would probably opt to carry the f4 70-210 Vario Elmar. Â Rich Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted January 22, 2013 Author Share #171 Â Posted January 22, 2013 I can only use my R lenses with a GXR for the time being as programming a chip for R lens use on a 5D MarkIII is a royal pain, for me. Â But whenever I can use them in earnest I am contemplating the APO 70-105 combined with the non-APO 105-280. I am armed with both APO 1.4x and 2x tele-extenders and look forward to trying them as well. Â Rick-Did you try any converter on the 105-280 yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveclem Posted January 22, 2013 Share #172 Â Posted January 22, 2013 Quick question for anyone; is the 105-280 a Minolta collaboration or just the 80-200 and 28-70? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildlightphoto Posted January 22, 2013 Share #173 Â Posted January 22, 2013 Quick question for anyone; is the 105-280 a Minolta collaboration or just the 80-200 and 28-70? Â The minolta zoom lenses are the 35-70mm f/3.5, 80-200mm f/4.5, 75-200mm f/4.5 and 70-210mm f/4. The 105-280mm is a Leica lens, the 80-200mm f/4 is a Leica design made by Kyocera and I believe the 28-70mm is a Sigma lens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsteve Posted January 22, 2013 Share #174 Â Posted January 22, 2013 Quick question for anyone; is the 105-280 a Minolta collaboration or just the 80-200 and 28-70? Â As Doug noted, the Minolta lenses are typically from the 1980's, not the current crop of zooms that I think started in about 1996. In addition to his noted lenses, the current 34-70mm f4 is a Leica designed, Kyocera made lens. Â The 28-70mm, latest version, is still the same optical design from Sigma, but I believe it was made by Kyocera. The later mechanical construction is much better than the earlier model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted February 10, 2013 Author Share #175 Â Posted February 10, 2013 Rob-Did you get notice that your 105-280 is being repaired in Solms? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted February 10, 2013 Author Share #176  Posted February 10, 2013 For me and to have options of a smaller and lighter package though perhaps not as good a performer, I think that I will use my f4 80-200mm Vario Elmar and to carry my f4 280 Apo Telyt lens when I can and when I feel I have a need. With the f4 280 Apo it offers me fine usage with the 1.4X and 2X Apo extenders for landscape and wildlife shooting. In those instances when needed for low light I will carry my f2.8 280 Apo. I wil have to compare the performance of my "new" f4 80-200 Vario Elmar with my old f4 70-210 Vario Elmar. My older lens is pretty sharp. It is also a one touch zoom and much lighter than the f4 Vario Elmar lens. If I need a faster operating and still a lighter package, I would probably opt to carry the f4 70-210 Vario Elmar. Rich  After rereading your post as well as many others RickLeica included, I have decided not to sell my as yet unused 70-210. After receiving an M-240 I will then decide. Let's trust I can decide this year! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
naturephoto1 Posted February 10, 2013 Share #177  Posted February 10, 2013 After rereading your post as well as many others RickLeica included, I have decided not to sell my as yet unused 70-210. After receiving an M-240 I will then decide. Let's trust I can decide this year!  Here are some images that I took with the f4 70-210 Vario Elmar in October at Mount Rainier NP with my Lumix G1 which was the first of the M 4/3 cameras and only 12.1 megapixels from the Fred Miranda site (I am restricted for the size posting here:  http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/ufiles/49/773249.jpg  http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/ufiles/50/773250.jpg  http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/ufiles/51/773251.jpg  http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/ufiles/52/773252.jpg  Rich Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted February 10, 2013 Author Share #178 Â Posted February 10, 2013 So let's see. We have a GF1 (12MP) and a 4/3 to M adapter and an M to R adapter. So I must try it then. Thanks for waking me up. Very nice winter shots BTW. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsteve Posted February 11, 2013 Share #179 Â Posted February 11, 2013 Rob-Did you get notice that your 105-280 is being repaired in Solms? Â Yes, they sent me the quote a while back. Looks like they are doing a full strip down and CLA. How did you know? Are you in Solms or talking to Leica NJ about work on your 105-280mm? Â My 400mm F2.8 is also in Solms getting a CLA too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted February 12, 2013 Author Share #180  Posted February 12, 2013 Yes, they sent me the quote a while back. Looks like they are doing a full strip down and CLA. How did you know? Are you in Solms or talking to Leica NJ about work on your 105-280mm? My 400mm F2.8 is also in Solms getting a CLA too.  Rob-Solms is too cold for me this time of year. Guess my timing was right. I have sent in a 280/2.8 to have CLA'd. Do not know if they send it to Solms or do that in NJ. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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