Skippy Sanchez Posted March 20, 2007 Share #1 Â Posted March 20, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) I've been very happy with my M8s thus far & see little reason to update until 1.10 comes out next month. Â update or not? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jaapv Posted March 20, 2007 Share #2 Â Posted March 20, 2007 Whatever you prefer - I was happy with 1.09 but liked the improvements of 1.092 so I upgraded. But I probably would not have been unhappy keeping 1.09 until 1.10 arrived. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skippy Sanchez Posted March 20, 2007 Author Share #3 Â Posted March 20, 2007 ... But I probably would not have been unhappy keeping 1.09 until 1.10 arrived. Â what do you mean? what were the improvements that prompted you to upgrade now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsteve Posted March 20, 2007 Share #4 Â Posted March 20, 2007 what do you mean? what were the improvements that prompted you to upgrade now? Â 1.092 has much better colour in any of the Adobe programs. I don't know if the Capture One colour improved, but LightRoom and ACR are not too far off in colour now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatthewG Posted March 20, 2007 Share #5 Â Posted March 20, 2007 I updated 2 days ago and I am not happy with it at all. Although it is possible that the problem lies with the camera itself. After updating my M8 started what can best be described as a hanging up sound when a photo is taken. It would do it for a second or two then stop. It took the pic fine and only one pic but the sound scared me to death. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailor Ted Posted March 20, 2007 Share #6 Â Posted March 20, 2007 I too am in a wait and see mode. Currently I have a perfectly functional M8 that I like very much. Any more details regarding the shutter and problems associated with 1.92 would be appreciated. Are people having issues with this firmware update and the camera's shutter? Does the install of 1.92 cause the shutter to sound different then with 1.90? Anyone of the opinion that 1.92 does not have issues? Â Regards, ST Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootist Posted March 20, 2007 Share #7  Posted March 20, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) I've been very happy with my M8s thus far & see little reason to update until 1.10 comes out next month. update or not?  I am never reluctant to update the firmware on any piece of equipment if the update is a official release. With the 1.91 firmware I put it on and then realized that Leica had pulled it so I went back to the 1.90 version. But when the 1.92 version came out I did the update the same morning it was released. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 20, 2007 Share #8  Posted March 20, 2007 I too am in a wait and see mode. Currently I have a perfectly functional M8 that I like very much. Any more details regarding the shutter and problems associated with 1.92 would be appreciated. Are people having issues with this firmware update and the camera's shutter? Does the install of 1.92 cause the shutter to sound different then with 1.90? Anyone of the opinion that 1.92 does not have issues? Regards, ST  1,092 is better. But indeed the shutter sounds different, some say louder, I do not agree, I would say more decisive, it has a kind of pre-click. That is here to stay afaik, not an issue. There are some minor scrolling hiccups when reviewing and when scrolling in the menu, but nothing to get upset about. On the other hand, I find white-balance better out of camera,both JPG and DNG especially when using 486 filters. The layout of the chimping screen has improved as well and I get the impression there fewer, if any other bugs reported. All in all I would recommend updating. Plus-one can always revert to 1.9 if so desired. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcbjr Posted March 20, 2007 Share #9  Posted March 20, 2007 I've been very happy with my M8s thus far & see little reason to update until 1.10 comes out next month. update or not?  i've heard enough anecdotal comment about problems with lockups, etc., and not enough benefits, to make a case to stay with 1.09. i'm content to wait for 1.10.  john Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP3 Posted March 20, 2007 Share #10 Â Posted March 20, 2007 I choose wait and see. Afterall, my 1.09 is working fine and reliable for me so far. Â Cheers Matthew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetccox Posted March 20, 2007 Share #11 Â Posted March 20, 2007 There are indeed lockups reported, but it has nothing to do with the firmware version. Cameras with the original firmware from November are having the same problems that cameras with 1.06, 1.09,1.091, and 1.092. 1.10 will just build on the previous 1.092 release. You might also notice that all of the photographers on this forum that are regular posters and power users are recommending the upgrade. I have a very early serial number camera that was upgraded in Solms in early December. It was returned with 1.06 fw. I upgraded to 1.090, 1.091, and now 1.092. I have never had a problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wparsonsgisnet Posted March 20, 2007 Share #12  Posted March 20, 2007 Don't hurry, wait for 1.2.  Or, take heart from the positive experience many are having with 1.092.  I like the changes to the viewing screen and the lower noise reported by many.  Here is a shot from a *very* difficult lighting situation with overhead fluorescents and daylight backlighting.  Shot at iso 1250, 1/250, 35mm 'lux asph @ f1.4, 486 filter, using Edmund's 1.092 Tuned2 profile, no noise reduction. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/19283-is-there-anyone-else-out-there-reluctant-to-update-firmware/?do=findComment&comment=206773'>More sharing options...
billh Posted March 20, 2007 Share #13 Â Posted March 20, 2007 I am waiting to hear more too. The AWB is terrible - worse than a $100 point and shoot - but the rest of the camera is still working OK. I still have to address the focus issues. A friend suggested a D3 if the M8 quits or I can't get it to focus accurately with all of my lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 20, 2007 Share #14 Â Posted March 20, 2007 I am waiting to hear more too. The AWB is terrible - worse than a $100 point and shoot - but the rest of the camera is still working OK. I still have to address the focus issues. A friend suggested a D3 if the M8 quits or I can't get it to focus accurately with all of my lenses. Â AWB - this is a camera that should be used in DNG, then WB is no issue at all. In fact, I am rather pleased with it then, not only compared t P&S cameras but to slightly more advanced ones as well. I'm sure there is some technical explanation for the whole WB situation. Any digi-savvy member... Leica has a good track record as such, the D2 is one of the best cameras around in that respect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wparsonsgisnet Posted March 20, 2007 Share #15 Â Posted March 20, 2007 WB is not a problem for me. Â I always shoot both jpg and raw. Raw is the photographers birthday present, every day. Â I use the jpg's in place of thumbnails, and to give to clients at the time of the shoot. I use the raw's to make all my images. Â I haven't found the WB to be a problem (in jpg's). I leave it on auto. For keeps, I WB the raw file, of course. Â I can't say enough good things about Edmund's profile with 1.092. You owe it to yourself to try this combo. Â Also, just the changes to the viewing screen, that got rid of the silver bar, make it easier to chimp and also remind me where my iso is. Â Does this camera have a shutter? Just kidding. For my next birthday present I want an M9 that makes no shutter sound. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grober Posted March 20, 2007 Share #16 Â Posted March 20, 2007 I'm clearly in the "ain't broke; don't fix it" mode but I'll probably screw my courage to a sticking spot and "upgrade" later this week. Â -g Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billh Posted March 20, 2007 Share #17 Â Posted March 20, 2007 AWB - this is a camera that should be used in DNG, then WB is no issue at all. In fact, I am rather pleased with it then, not only compared t P&S cameras but to slightly more advanced ones as well. I'm sure there is some technical explanation for the whole WB situation. Any digi-savvy member... Leica has a good track record as such, the D2 is one of the best cameras around in that respect. Â I only shoot RAW. However, often the color is sometimes so bad it is difficult to correct. Simply changing the color temp and sliders does not work in these cases. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 20, 2007 Share #18 Â Posted March 20, 2007 I only shoot RAW. However, often the color is sometimes so bad it is difficult to correct. Simply changing the color temp and sliders does not work in these cases. Â IR will skew it irrecoverably sometimes.Do you use filters? I wonder. I find it better to correct than for instance the Canon 20D in post. Sometimes the Easycurve plugin in PSE will do a good job in difficult light. I find it more responsive than the curves in CS2 Whitebalance is the bane of photographers life since Agfa invented colour film. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilfredo Posted March 20, 2007 Share #19 Â Posted March 20, 2007 Is a blank SD card required for the firmaware upgrade? Â Thanks, Wilfredo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP3 Posted March 21, 2007 Share #20 Â Posted March 21, 2007 I only shoot RAW. However, often the color is sometimes so bad it is difficult to correct. Simply changing the color temp and sliders does not work in these cases. Â Did you use IR cut filters? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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