dierk Posted May 17, 2013 Share #41 Posted May 17, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) I made more tests to compare red and IR filter Leica M Monochrom with Super-Elmar-M 21mm/3.4 no filter PP: Nik Silver Efex red filter (with blue sky the red filter would show more effect) PP: Nik Silver Efex vignette from wrong rubber lens hood IR filter R72 PP: Nik Silver Efex dierk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted May 17, 2013 Posted May 17, 2013 Hi dierk, Take a look here Infrared on MM. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
dierk Posted May 17, 2013 Share #42 Posted May 17, 2013 and for comparison a test with M9 with Super-Elmar-M 21mm/3.4 no filter PP: LR4 IR filter R72 PP: LR4 IR filter R72 PP: Nik Silver Efex dierk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billo101 Posted May 18, 2013 Share #43 Posted May 18, 2013 I prefer IR Monochron shot instead IR M9. Thanks a lot Dierk. b Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dierk Posted June 6, 2013 Share #44 Posted June 6, 2013 I got a filter Heliopan R715 for the 35 LUX and the 21mm Super-Elmar-M and since I discovered the correct focus, and I love it :-) Here are some examples: all Leica M Monochrom with Super-Elmar-M 21mm/3.4 @ f/9, IR filter R715 (click for larger images) the first two stitched pano dierk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.f Posted June 6, 2013 Share #45 Posted June 6, 2013 You bet you love it! This is spectacular and thank you very very much for your work and the results of it! I am going to get me that 715! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dierk Posted June 7, 2013 Share #46 Posted June 7, 2013 more from the Leica M Monochrom with Super-Elmar-M 21mm/3.4 @ f/9, IR filter R715 more in my flickr IR album stitched images (click) dierk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
egrossman Posted June 7, 2013 Share #47 Posted June 7, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Great samples Dirk. Could you talk a little about how much of a problem focus shift is and if it's mandatory to use a tripod given what I suspect are low shutter speeds given how much light is blocked from the IR filter. What's your process to capture these shots? Thanks. Erik Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dierk Posted June 7, 2013 Share #48 Posted June 7, 2013 thanks, Erik with ISO 360 and f/9 I have 1/2 second with this sort of light. That means tripod, and using the tripod it is just easy to do some more shots left and right and get the panoramic view, you may wont in these landscape shots. You may find more IR shots here: Infrared - a set on Flickr You get the EXIF under the little three dots at the bottom of the images. dierk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dierk Posted June 7, 2013 Share #49 Posted June 7, 2013 more samples: Leica M Monochrom with Super-Elmar-M 21mm/3.4 @ f/9, IR filter R715 (click) dierk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
egrossman Posted June 7, 2013 Share #50 Posted June 7, 2013 Thanks again Dierk. Can you comment on the focus shift and how difficult it is to focus with this filter? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dierk Posted June 7, 2013 Share #51 Posted June 7, 2013 sorry, Erik, I forgot this question. I set the focus between the max aperture and the next one stop down on the DOF scale ring of the lens (on Leica lenses it is on the left of the focus scale. With wide angle lenses and f/9 you get enough DOF to compensate any errors. With long lenses this will be a problem without focus bracketing and you have to do tests. I am afraid, zoom lenses don't have this scale for the DOF. I hope, you will understand, what I mean with this scale? regards dierk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dierk Posted June 8, 2013 Share #52 Posted June 8, 2013 Comparison of real IR and simulated IR Leica M9 with Canon 17mm TS-E tilt/shift PP: LR4 Leica M9 with Canon 17mm TS-E tilt/shift, IR simulation Postprocessing: LR4: normal development, for the IR effect increased luminance of green and yellow and decreased blue Nik Silver Efex for IR simulation: "normal" development, strong red filter, in film types (I have the German version, so it could be called different in the English version!) increased sensitivity for yellow and green and decreased blue some UPOINTs to lighten the trees and grass and increase contrast in the building Leica M Monochrom with Super-Elmar-M 21mm/3.4 @ f/9, IR filter R715 dierk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billo101 Posted June 12, 2013 Share #53 Posted June 12, 2013 Thanks for the thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dierk Posted June 19, 2013 Share #54 Posted June 19, 2013 more IR from the MM: you may find more here in my post at Steve Huff Leica M Monochrom with Super-Elmar-M 21mm/3.4 @ f/9, IR filter R715 stitch from 3 images, PP: LR5 and Nik Silver Efex stitch from 3 images, PP: LR4 dierk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dspeltz Posted July 22, 2013 Share #55 Posted July 22, 2013 Monochrom, Summicron 50mm AA, 093 filter, f/2 @ 8 seconds Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/192577-infrared-on-mm/?do=findComment&comment=2380201'>More sharing options...
250swb Posted July 22, 2013 Share #56 Posted July 22, 2013 Thank you dierk and dspeltz for not only posting enjoyable images but also showing that the so called focus shift with coloured filters is far from unmanageable with the MM. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 22, 2013 Share #57 Posted July 22, 2013 Comparison of real IR and simulated IRPP: LR4: normal development, for the IR effect increased luminance of green and yellow and decreased blue Nik Silver Efex for IR simulation: "normal" development, strong red filter, in film types (I have the German version, so it could be called different in the English version!) increased sensitivity for yellow and green and decreased blue some UPOINTs to lighten the trees and grass and increase contrast in the building dierk Thank you Dierk! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted July 22, 2013 Share #58 Posted July 22, 2013 Thank you all for posting these - inspiring. I'm off to get an IR filter today, work out the focus, and start my IR photography . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelRabern Posted July 23, 2013 Share #59 Posted July 23, 2013 Thank you all for posting these - inspiring. I'm off to get an IR filter today, work out the focus, and start my IR photography . Me too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicolas Soldati Posted July 23, 2013 Share #60 Posted July 23, 2013 . With the RG 715 filter, the Wood effect looks good with both cameras but the image quality is much better in the M Monochrom ... even though the M9 is slightly more sensitive in the IR range, the M Monochrom more than compensates with better sharpness, finer tones, and less noise despite higher ISO. The M8 might be somewhat better still; I don't know ... but the M Monochrom most definitely is not entirely unsuitable for IR work. Thank you all for this very interesting discussion!!!! It is clear that the MM has a low response in deep red wave length. The transmission of the cover glass is 11% at 650nm (for a thickness of 1mm, the MM glass has a thickness of 0.8mm and transmission has to be calculated accordingly) and the Quantum efficiency of the sensor at 650nm is 9%, so the total response at that wave length is low. But there is an another factor to consider. Whereas the M8 has a better transmission, it also has a Bayer array. That means that only 1/4 of the pixels (the red ones) will take advantage of the higher IR transmission, the other one are completely blind. Simply put, you have 4 time less resolution in Bayer vs Monochrom for deep red imagery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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