jaapv Posted November 12, 2012 Share #1 Posted November 12, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) I think it is just a bit too pretty... Marktplaats.nl > Leica IIIc # 365678 Air Force property FL.38079 - Audio, Tv en Foto - Fotografie | Camera's | Analoog Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 Hi jaapv, Take a look here Luftwaffe iiic. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
sabears Posted November 12, 2012 Share #2 Posted November 12, 2012 I think it is just a bit too... fraud cheers. P.S.: See Ebay n.260991940159 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted November 12, 2012 Share #3 Posted November 12, 2012 Serial number is OK according to Cane but the Luftwaffen Eigentum engraving on the back looks dodgy ... poorly engraved and font looks incorrect. And even if it is genuine the price is way OTT. dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted November 13, 2012 Share #4 Posted November 13, 2012 ... At least, even the Fl. Contract number is correct... Leica German Luftwaffe Clearly Luftwaffe used this camera with lot of care... finishing is still so beautiful... This one seems to me more trustable (also for I know well the dealer...) : http://www.newoldcamera.com/Scheda.aspx?Codice=LC529&Sql=+HIKNlAITN8UUbvAeTXmfwrd2l8IxoXjJFHEYQSdFn+3Y19Vs/E9i82Owe5OxgCjpvB17URNvX1y9Frg/gJmExfi/+uF8olRZklrphQCqxK553QmmdEwujexDzAlfk/Dzzn7UDvRVDxKihPX2snUs9AYAEcWH5F0GJVnLPqN1J48N9/YJ+TzCd1xa8hGqhsa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted November 13, 2012 Author Share #5 Posted November 13, 2012 Maybe they got shot down on the first trip Amazingly the brassing on the Summitar is nearly identical to the Italian one... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabears Posted November 13, 2012 Share #6 Posted November 13, 2012 Original military cameras and lenses (from Leitz registers) in fully original exc++ or better conditions do exist but they have a very high price. Defaced or modified (updated) cameras, the vast majority in the market, worth only a fraction of them. cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc_braconi Posted November 13, 2012 Share #7 Posted November 13, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Just to illustrate with a genuine one (as refered in the Leica Historica u.V. issued book) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/192089-luftwaffe-iiic/?do=findComment&comment=2165958'>More sharing options...
jaapv Posted November 13, 2012 Author Share #8 Posted November 13, 2012 JC, how come a Luftwaffe Leica comes with a French instruction booklet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc_braconi Posted November 13, 2012 Share #9 Posted November 13, 2012 JC, how come a Luftwaffe Leica comes with a French instruction booklet? the one on the left was sold in Italy in 1941, the one from the left, post war was sold in France in 1947 and here is its instruction booklet. I have Ic IIc instruction booklet in German but not for the IIIc, yet... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc_braconi Posted November 13, 2012 Share #10 Posted November 13, 2012 ... Clearly Luftwaffe used this camera with lot of care... finishing is still so beautiful... I have the genuine leather case for the Luftwaffen Eigemtum and it is made with (black) thicker leather than the civil one. May be this helped for its well maintenance and if flying survival, the cameras for this use were certainly less hurted than in the Heer or Marine. The one illustrated is a 2eme DB souvenir. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted November 13, 2012 Share #11 Posted November 13, 2012 Maybe they got shot down on the first trip Amazingly the brassing on the Summitar is nearly identical to the Italian one... It looks like that the "Luftwaffen Eigentum" writing on the Summitar had been erased... as it happened in the items "war-preyed" at the end of war and sold (or, anyway, "arrived") to users in the complex times of miltary occupation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerzy Posted November 14, 2012 Share #12 Posted November 14, 2012 JC, how come a Luftwaffe Leica comes with a French instruction booklet? searching through various sources I never came accros a booklet for the wartime IIIc (stepped under reverse lever). Does anyone have one? Is there a scan somwhere in the Web? best regards Jerzy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc_braconi Posted November 14, 2012 Share #13 Posted November 14, 2012 searching through various sources I never came accros a booklet for the wartime IIIc (stepped under reverse lever). Does anyone have one? Is there a scan somwhere in the Web?best regards Jerzy Same for me, never found one ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabears Posted November 14, 2012 Share #14 Posted November 14, 2012 At that time there were very close relations between Italy (Cattaneo, Genua ) and Germany. Infact the "mysterious" brochures regarding "stepper" Leica IIIC are rarely found in ... Italian. This is the cover of the original brochure... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/192089-luftwaffe-iiic/?do=findComment&comment=2166958'>More sharing options...
jaapv Posted November 16, 2012 Author Share #15 Posted November 16, 2012 I think it is just a bit too... fraud cheers. P.S.: See Ebay n.260991940159 Not necessarily. This ad is from Oct. 19th. It could be the eBay seller is pushing it on for a quick buck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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