Preparing for the M

[lct]

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The bipod mount looks removable on the pics, which is not surprising per se.

[darylgo]

Does anyone know if the New M's 'R to M adaptor' comes complete with the tripod foot which Stefan Daniels demonstrated being unscrewed in his Photokina video? I have not seen the 'foot' illustrated in any of the accessory photos thus wondering if it might be an optional extra?

 

Best wishes

 

dunk

 

The reports I heard were that the foot is removable but otherwise is part of the adapter purchase, so I would not think it is an accessory to the (accessory) adapter. The only reference I could find that mentions it is the latest Viewfinder (vol. 45, issue 4), David Farkas writes "The adapter is fairly small and features a removable tripod foot, which the camera will balance on without toppling over."

[darylgo]

Here's a few images and the 3rd link is the source for the pictures:

 

http://www.reddotforum.com/ArticleImages/Photokina2012_Day_1/large/L1050435.jpg

 

http://www.reddotforum.com/ArticleImages/Photokina2012_Day_1/large/L1050434.jpg

 

http://www.reddotforum.com/content.php/278-Photokina-2012-Day-1-The-Leica-M

[k-hawinkler]

On the foot is this marking in the second image:

 

Made in Portugal

14642

 

 

On my pre-order confirmation sheet it says:

 

799429146429 Leica R Adapter M

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The Leica R Adapter M comes complete with the (removable) tripod foot.

[k-hawinkler]

The Leica R Adapter M comes complete with the (removable) tripod foot.

 

 

Whew, another problem solved.

Thanks.

[darylgo]

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On the foot is this marking in the second image:

 

Made in Portugal

14642

 

 

On my pre-order confirmation sheet it says:

 

799429146429 Leica R Adapter M

 

Maybe the foot is the item ordered and the adaper is the accessory:D

[k-hawinkler]

Works for me!

 

:D

[algrove]

I was told at Photokina it comes with the tripod mount. I also posted a photo of it around the 18-20 September on this forum. I am a traveling with this iPad so cannot repost the R adapter image.

[k-hawinkler]

I was told at Photokina it comes with the tripod mount. I also posted a photo of it around the 18-20 September on this forum. I am a traveling with this iPad so cannot repost the R adapter image.

 

http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/attachments/other/336001d1348175411-monochrome-photokina-some-images-l1000936.jpg

 

http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/2186346-post2.html

[hoppyman]

In the Red Dot Forum, David Farkas published excerpts and video from an interview with Jesko von Oeynhausen at Photokina.

 

These responses to questions may be useful in the discussion here on the R to M adapter operations

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Is there is still a manual lens selection in the menu for non-six bit coded M lenses?

 

Yes, same as on the M9.

 

Will you have to select the R lens you are using every time you mount the R adapter?

 

If you are just using one R lens, it will be remembered from the last time you used it. Obviously, if you are changing multiple R lenses, they will have to be selected each time.

[robsteve]

This thread went pretty quiet. I guess everybody is prepared now:)

 

My preparations have been a rationalization of my gear including M and R. I am thinking from wide to 90mm at least, the M lenses I have will do the job.

[darylgo]

Digging through my R lenses from a purchase (20 years ago) of a used SL2 outfit I found a 28mm F2.8 2 cam, a 50mm F1.4 2 cam (1st version) and the lens I am most interested a 90mm F2 Summicron (1st version). The last lens fills in the 90mm focal length for me and from what I read is soft wide open and sharp stopped down to F5.6, akin to the 90mm M lenses of the same vintage. It's nowhere near the current apo but after shooting lenses like the 75mm Lux I appreciate the Mandler lenses for their unique signature and dual personality and multiple uses...portrait and landscape. Can't wait to see what it does on the new M.

[lct]

I was preparing for longer than Leica was preparing for me. Looking forward to seeing how some favorites like the R 280/4 or the lighter Nikkor 300/4 behave on the M-240. Same for R 35-70/4, R 60/2.8 and the tiny Zuiko 21/2 compared to R 21/4 and M 21/2.8 asph. Remains to check how the M-240 and its 30 fps frame rate behaves itself before deciding to update my good old 5D1 instead.

[MikeEvangelist]

This thread went pretty quiet. I guess everybody is prepared now:)

 

My 'preparation' continues with the addition of a 280mm 2.8, which I'm currently shooting on an 800e.

 

Really a lovely lens. (this is my grandson, who rarely stands still, miraculously in focus. 100% crop.)

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[chris_tribble]

Isn't there something rather wonderful about having all the BEST feature of the M series (with lenses from 28 through to, say, 75), but ALSO having the possibility of saying goodbye to multiple external finders for WIDE lenses (or the Frankenfinder) + being able to focus 90 and 135 M lenses more accurately AND being able to use longer lenses from other makers (or R lenses) when you feel so inclined. I'm buying the M because it promises excellent IQ, compatibility with my current M lenses AND these additional advantages. Seriously, so long as IQ is as good as (or better) than the M9, what's not to like?

[masjah]

To me at least I cannot see any attraction in the new and up and coming M camera. I don't want live view, video or a modern incarnation of a visoflex on a Leica M. If I want to use any of these features a Nikon or Cannon DSLR will do it much better.

 

On the other hand a Leica M will blow a DSLR out of the water when it comes to a small, silent and unobtrusive picture maker.

 

Both systems compliment each other and trying to make the M in this ridiculous way will end in disaster.

 

Leica PLEASE stick to your roots and stop making "me too" products that will go the same way as the M5 and the R series.

 

But for me, a Leica SLR user with a collection of the best R glass, Nikon or Canon won't do it much better (if, that is, I don't want to hack the mounts or rear shrouds about, or shave mirrors and I don't need autofocus). I concede I don't want video, so I'll just ignore that feature. For the rest, it will suit my own particular photographic needs and style very well. And judging from the way that the best R glass has rocketed in price on the s/h market, I'm not the only one.

 

If you don't want a visoflex, don't buy the EVF2. For the rest, I don't see how these additional features detract from using the camera as a classic M; you can just ignore them.

 

I might well trade my 35/1.4 R lens for corresponding M model and I've got the best of both worlds.

 

As for the new M being a "me too" product, I don't see anything else on the market that does the same job all in one.

[4X5B&W]

Isn't there something rather wonderful about having all the BEST feature of the M series (with lenses from 28 through to, say, 75), but ALSO having the possibility of saying goodbye to multiple external finders for WIDE lenses (or the Frankenfinder) + being able to focus 90 and 135 M lenses more accurately AND being able to use longer lenses from other makers (or R lenses) when you feel so inclined. I'm buying the M because it promises excellent IQ, compatibility with my current M lenses AND these additional advantages. Seriously, so long as IQ is as good as (or better) than the M9, what's not to like?

 

Agree 100%, this new M will do everything a M9 does with lenses up to 90mm, plus gives a perfect platform for those fabulous R lenses.

I thankfully held onto my 100 Macro, 180 Apo and 2x converter, for just this type of camera.

 

For both macro and telephoto work shooting of a tripod would by my preferred way of working anyway, so Live View is perfect.......don't need an EVF .

[hoppyman]

Chris you said it perfectly!

I also look forward to what the new sensor structure can do in achieving the best possible results from wides (edge corrections requirement gone/reduced) and a camera that is much more responsive in processing speeds.

Here at least it will actually be significantly cheaper than the M9 was in the first few months

 

It should be the best M ever for IQ and the other stuff is a bonus that can be ignored or utilised however the photographer chooses.

That "other stuff" of course is really the fulfilment of entire forum wish lists for changes to the M9

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[masjah]

Paul, our respective positions are very clear, very different, and pretty well irreconcileable. I'll respect your position and agree to differ. Time will tell. I'll let you know how I get on with all my superb R glass and the new M when mine arrives.