ddp Posted March 15, 2007 Share #1 Posted March 15, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Found this link over on RFF (in a post wondering whether Leica's had become "hobbyist" cameras) Lightstalkers :: Who is using Leica Ms for assignments. Thought it might be of interest to see what some of the shooters out in the field are using in addition to their DSLR's..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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earleygallery Posted March 15, 2007 Share #2 Posted March 15, 2007 I saw a PJ using the M8 at a function recently. Several other's there using Nikon/Canon were showing a LOT of interest in it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambroving Posted March 15, 2007 Share #3 Posted March 15, 2007 Brother James, True, but I think you are slightly missing the point Dan was making by posting this link. "matt; certainly some national geographic photographers continue to use it. in fact, i have it from reliable sources that alex webb ‘upgraded’ to a leica MP maggie steber continues to use her M6 for her assignments. and i believe that most of the others are using both i.e. leicas along with their digital SLRs. randy olson carries his M6 with him even though he is shooting mostly digital. reza always has his on his shoulder even if he has his canon digital SLRs on the other shoulder. then there is james whitlow delano, all leica. and pascal meunier all leica MP. fine photographers both. sara terry always has her M6 tucked away next to her D30. yves gellie may have used her M6 for a recent story about modern japan for GEO, but i may be wrong on this. on a more humble level, i continue to carry my leica where ever i go. my last two forays to haiti were shot on leicas, my last piece on israel, so was my work in northern iraq, and even my earlier work in south waziristan. all leicas with a single lens. in fact, in the last 3 years i have shot most of my work with leicas, only occasionally turning to digital when the client’s needs demanded it i.e. turnaround time to get the pictures to them. of course these were feature stories and not news pictures. the latter of course now impossible to execute with ‘ancient’ technologies like film. i think that a lot of photographers continue to maintain both. and tend to turn to their film cameras for longer stories or personal work simply because of the simplicity of it. i know i do; its light, it requires nothing more than some timy batteries that last for over a year, it lets you rest/talk/socialize at the end of the day without worrying about backups or recharges, it needs only a small light camera bag to throw over your shoulder and just get out the door. i love the simplicity of the whole thing, and even the mechanical, craftsman like nature of making an image with it – you have to do it all with your hands (focus, exposure etc.). i think that the we are celebrating the death of film prematurely. of course digital has many advantages – speed of results and transmission being the major ones. but i also believe that photographers, serious ones, will continue to work with these ‘ancient’ technologies. but then again, i also believe that paper based books will always exist in parallel to whatever modern form they emerge in. sometimes the ‘ancient’ can be perfect for what it was meant to do, and some of us continue to want to do it in that old fashioned way. the leicas are perfect. well, nearly so there is also the pleasure of working with perfection. call me old fashioned asim" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomasw_ Posted March 16, 2007 Share #4 Posted March 16, 2007 well said William. good cheer, thomas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frasier Posted March 16, 2007 Share #5 Posted March 16, 2007 Hello WIlliam, I read your posting with great interest and I can say you speak out of my soul. Even though I use my Nikon D200 with great pleasure because it is so easy to handle, I still love my MP even more. I would be interested very interested to hear from what´s your preferedworkflow in postprocessing. Do you scan your negatives or slides, or do you work them out in the classical way? What scanner are you using for best results? What are you favorite lenses with the M-system. As you can see I am very nosey, but I am always eager to learn from a pro Thank you in advance. Greedings from Würzburg, Germany Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted March 16, 2007 Share #6 Posted March 16, 2007 Credit where it's due, most of William's post was a quote was from Asim. But I think Asim has a point in that there's room for both film and digital and which you choose really depends on all sorts of factors. I love using both though I have to say that on a purely _quality_ level I find the images from my M8 superior to those from scanned film from my M6. However, there is more to photography than mere image quality - if that were the case we'd all be shooting large format <grin> Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pemayeux Posted March 16, 2007 Share #7 Posted March 16, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) William you are quite right. I've got both the M8 and the MP (a 5D as well but I don't use it). Film does have a softer quality to it than digital. The digital may be a bit more sharp at 100% view - but it lacks the texture and depth of color (at least in my hands). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddp Posted March 16, 2007 Author Share #8 Posted March 16, 2007 As William stated, my point in linking this article was to show that the film M is far from dead among PJ's. I've seen far too many sweeping comments on the web about serious shooters and pros not using film anymore. I know a number of pros that exist in both worlds - myself included. Both worlds meaning digital / film....and in some cases, various formats. I have clients that WANT film, that hate the digital look. We could, and will debate this over and over again. I've seen plenty of great work from digital, including the M8. But there are times when I want (or need) the look of film...it has a texture and depth I look for that I can't always get from a digital file. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambroving Posted March 16, 2007 Share #9 Posted March 16, 2007 Hello WIlliam,I read your posting with great interest and I can say you speak out of my soul. Even though I use my Nikon D200 with great pleasure because it is so easy to handle, I still love my MP even more. I would be interested very interested to hear from what´s your preferedworkflow in postprocessing. Do you scan your negatives or slides, or do you work them out in the classical way? What scanner are you using for best results? What are you favorite lenses with the M-system. As you can see I am very nosey, but I am always eager to learn from a pro Thank you in advance. Greedings from Würzburg, Germany Jochen, I'm only a long time Leica happy snapper who occasionally gets lucky, very lucky, with my Leicas. My "workflow" has been, until recently, to have my film processed locally by a decent lab with a large Agfa processor and scanned to high-res files on the same Agfa machine. Any additional prints I have wanted out to ~ 28 x 43 cm have been printed from these files by a Hassy/Leica pro and friend. Simple... Suggest you ask Dan who has just posted here or Rona|d on the German Forum if you prefer "auf Deutsch", both of whom also share the views expressed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted March 16, 2007 Share #10 Posted March 16, 2007 Any additional prints I have wanted out to ~ 28 x 43 cm have been printed from these files by a Hassy/Leica pro and friend. Simple.. Simple only if you have an accommodating friend who is a Hasselblad/Leica pro and willing to indulge you. Mere mortals have to deal with real labs and real printers, I'm afraid... I have to say that the scans I have paid £15 a roll for, via an Agfa machine, have been absolutely terrible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambroving Posted March 17, 2007 Share #11 Posted March 17, 2007 Simple only if you have an accommodating friend who is a Hasselblad/Leica pro and willing to indulge you. Mere mortals have to deal with real labs and real printers, I'm afraid... I have to say that the scans I have paid £15 a roll for, via an Agfa machine, have been absolutely terrible. Poor baby... Dan and I pay about $15-$18 per C41 135/36 for processing, scanning and decent 4x6 proof prints. Immigrate? You surely get ripped over there... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted March 17, 2007 Share #12 Posted March 17, 2007 As William stated, my point in linking this article was to show that the film M is far from dead among PJ's. I've seen far too many sweeping comments on the web about serious shooters and pros not using film anymore. I know a number of pros that exist in both worlds - myself included. Both worlds meaning digital / film....and in some cases, various formats. I have clients that WANT film, that hate the digital look. We could, and will debate this over and over again. I've seen plenty of great work from digital, including the M8. But there are times when I want (or need) the look of film...it has a texture and depth I look for that I can't always get from a digital file. Well its just a theory of mine, but I'm guessing a lot of newcomers to the Leica M8 (users who haven't used an M before) will most probably be tempted to add a film M to their kit. The gallery I was at where I saw the photographer with the M8 was showing an exhibition of landscapes - I spoke to the photographer who took them and asked what he used. MF film (a Fuji I think) "I would never sacrifice my art" was his response when I asked if he'd used digital Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted March 17, 2007 Share #13 Posted March 17, 2007 Poor baby... Dan and I pay about $15-$18 per C41 135/36 for processing, scanning and decent 4x6 proof prints. Immigrate? You surely get ripped over there... Thanks for the sympathy, Dad We get ripped off in oh so many ways... but here is not the place to discuss all of them. Living where we do has its compensations as I am sure you know. Maybe you get what you pay for? However, this is one of the reasons why I prefer to do it myself with my films and why I don't shoot colour negative any more. Even having a supermarket process and print 6x4s costs you around £9 these days, with nasty scans onto a CD a couple of quid extra. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolo Posted March 17, 2007 Share #14 Posted March 17, 2007 My perspective is influenced by the equipment I own, but if a client wants quick and cheap - they get digital from my Pro Series Canon. If they want quality and size, they get film. Both go through PhotoShop and try as I might and excellent as they are, the DSLR shots do not have the preferred 'feel' of my film based work. Andy, send me your next roll of colour negative film and I'll demonstrate what can be achieved with a low cost film/CD processer, that knows what he's doing, for an insignificant amount of money. Rolo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted March 17, 2007 Share #15 Posted March 17, 2007 Rolo Thanks for the offer. You could, of course, just tell me where to go (in the nicest possible way, of course ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolo Posted March 17, 2007 Share #16 Posted March 17, 2007 Rolo Thanks for the offer. You could, of course, just tell me where to go (in the nicest possible way, of course ) Of course I could, but I'd prefer not to and avoid the risk that you don't gt the same service I've developed with this supplier. I've said it before to the point of being embarrassed, these machines are tuned for your average crap holiday photographs. The settings have to be swept aside to allow the processor to give clean scans. I deal with an international chain and I'm the only photographer in the UK that has a personal profile setting at any of the company's branches. I got that because i was there when they set up their new machine and completey wrecked a wedding for me. I want you to use that profile and confirm it's OK for you. Rolo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted March 17, 2007 Share #17 Posted March 17, 2007 Top man. My next roll of C41 will be on its way to you. Thanks Just don't wait by the letter box every morning. It may be some time... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted March 17, 2007 Share #18 Posted March 17, 2007 Having just had some b&w prints done by one of those in store 'instant' Kodak machines I know there has to be a better way to have prints made :-(. They're poor, colour caste, blown highlights etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisweeks Posted March 18, 2007 Share #19 Posted March 18, 2007 in addition to my two canon dslr's there's still a leica around my neck, which is used extensively. i can shoot all of the digital my clients need yesterday and still make the photos i want for myself with my leica. and that leica's a film-leica ... either an mp or the m6ttl. my film/lab bill on a monthly basis is still around US$500-US$1000 depending upon how much i shoot. why isn't it an m8 dangling from my neck? that crop factor bugs the hell out of me; if i want fullframe, i'll shoot my mp or m6. also, i don't have to put filters on my canon dslr's to make an acceptable image. besides ... the girl at my lab is hot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted March 18, 2007 Share #20 Posted March 18, 2007 besides ... the girl at my lab is hot. Now, that's the most rational argument I've heard for remaining with film for a long time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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