pico Posted September 20, 2012 Share #61 Posted September 20, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Really? What about the stupid pink and green X2? If one buys that, they are not interested in photography. They are interested in being SEEN. Of course. The designie X2 colors are International Distress standards. Frankly, it looks like a tiny purse for nose powder - whatever that is today. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 Hi pico, Take a look here Hasselblad Lunar. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
erl Posted September 20, 2012 Share #62 Posted September 20, 2012 Just to 'flip the coin', we should be mindful that these 'frippery' cams are possibly the financiers of our 'real' cameras, so maybe we should give them a break. There is no compulsion to buy them, unless you like them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaques Posted September 20, 2012 Share #63 Posted September 20, 2012 "This is not a NEX 7 camera, just because we are buying components from Sony. The hardware is just a small part of the whole." according to Hasselblad Hardware is just a small part of a camera.... an Alloy body and fine leather grip is just as important... Oh- the shame! They can't even come up with a decent excuse about the Lunar... Hasselblad: are you listening? Sack the design team and scrap the camera. Make a modular digital camera that is actually based on teh 500C design. Send me a cheque when things pick up... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Thompson Posted September 20, 2012 Share #64 Posted September 20, 2012 Call me wierd, but I've always believed that form should follow function - and that also includes the materials used. So, with that in mind, the thought of a camera with a slick, polished wooden hand grip makes absolutely no sense to me, especially when one's hands perspire. For the price they're charging, these details should have been better thought out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanG Posted September 20, 2012 Share #65 Posted September 20, 2012 "*...handgrips made of real fake leather..." From Albert Brook's "Lost in America" - He is talking to a car dealer on the phone. "That's everything?" Brooks asks. "Except leather," the dealer says. "For what I'm paying, I don't get leather?" Brooks asks, aghast. "You get Mercedes leather." "Mercedes leather? What's that?'' "Thick vinyl." On the plus side my girlfriend's "Mercedes Leather" looks almost new after 23 years and the genuine leather on my driver's seat is pretty shot after 6 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanG Posted September 20, 2012 Share #66 Posted September 20, 2012 "For example, the camera's body is made of aluminum. It takes five hours to machine this down. You can only produce three or four a day, and it costs €300. The same part, but made of plastic, would cost 35 cents. So, you could go to Asia and do a similar product for a few hundred euros, but you would be using cheap materials. Or you could use the right materials and the right processes, but it will have to be priced at €5000, €6000 or €7000." One thing wrong with this is that the Nex 7 body is made out of metal. Besides it is not as if the electronics won't become outdated after a few years regardless of the price. (The Nex 7 is already a likely candidate for updating soon.) From DPReview: "The NEX-7's build quality is excellent - the metal-shelled body feels solid with no flexing or creaks, and the handgrip is covered with a thick rubberized coating. The three control dials and most of the buttons are crafted from metal, giving a real quality feel. The overall impression is of a camera that's designed to provide as much control as possible at your fingertips, with minimal fripperies or gimmicks." So Hasselblad needs to improve on this? What Hasselblad doesn't say is that a lot of us put up with their bodies and quirks to use the Zeiss lenses. I switched to the Rollei 6006 as soon as it came out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted September 20, 2012 Share #67 Posted September 20, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) "For example, the camera's body is made of aluminum. It takes five hours to machine this down. You can only produce three or four a day, and it costs €300. The same part, but made of plastic, would cost 35 cents. So, you could go to Asia and do a similar product for a few hundred euros, but you would be using cheap materials. Or you could use the right materials and the right processes, but it will have to be priced at €5000, €6000 or €7000." One thing wrong with this is that the Nex 7 body is made out of metal. Besides it is not as if the electronics won't become outdated after a few years regardless of the price. (The Nex 7 is already a likely candidate for updating soon.) Exactly. They are making a 'cheap' consumer digicam which will have a useful life of what, say 3-5 years at most? I just don't see the point in making some elaborate aluminium case when a cheap plastic part will do the job just as well. I will be amazed if this camera sells. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted September 20, 2012 Share #68 Posted September 20, 2012 I've coughed up better looking things than this camera. And what ever way you try and market it, or worse DEFEND it (Hasselblad do alot of this) it's just a rebadged and tarted up NEX. Bill put it best in another thread - NEX(t)! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted September 20, 2012 Share #69 Posted September 20, 2012 Just to 'flip the coin', we should be mindful that these 'frippery' cams are possibly the financiers of our 'real' cameras, so maybe we should give them a break. I don't think so. These kind of products are indicative of a company that has totally lost its way. Maybe we shouldn't be surprised: Hasselblad has been through a number of owners in recent years and seems to have struggled to fully get to grips with the changing marketplace for MF professional equipment. The 'word on the street' for a while now has been that Hasselblad is in serious financial trouble and this tie-up with Sony may well be one of the last throws of the dice. In fact, this latest fiasco may well suggest that Hasselblad is pretty much finished as the once proud independent Swedish manufacturer and is now fast morphing into just a brand to be hawked about by its private equity owners. I suspect the opportunity missed was for Hasselblad (having already effectively merged with Imacon) not to merge with Phase One. A single industry dominant MF company like that might (just) have worked in today's market. Lunar. Old Victor will be spinning in his grave so fast you could harness the energy and fly to the <moderated> moon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
anderswi Posted September 20, 2012 Share #70 Posted September 20, 2012 I've coughed up better looking things than this camera. And what ever way you try and market it, or worse DEFEND it (Hasselblad do alot of this) it's just a rebadged and tarted up NEX. Bill put it best in another thread - NEX(t)! Please! Show us! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted September 20, 2012 Share #71 Posted September 20, 2012 If you're going to do something better than what is existing. That is, rebadge and remanufacture an existing design at far greater expense at least do it in a way at the very least is more attractive. I think it should be called the Hasselblad Lunatic or better Hasselblad NEX Afterbirth Anyone buying such a thing probably has enough bad taste to like it and actually think that people might think they are cooler for buying it. And Hasselblads cheap shot at Leica for rebadging the Panasonics is silly. They actually designed the lenses for them and it's no different to what they are doing. I would even bet that Fuji have designed and will make the lens too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted September 20, 2012 Share #72 Posted September 20, 2012 .................Lunar. Old Victor will be spinning in his grave so fast you could harness the energy and fly to the <moderated> moon. :D:D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted September 20, 2012 Share #73 Posted September 20, 2012 Last edited by erl; Today at 13:42. Reason: gratuitous foul language What is it with the creeping censorship in this forum? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted September 20, 2012 Share #74 Posted September 20, 2012 I'm extremely disappointed that Ian's post was censored. There was no offence whatsoever in his post.The only thing that might be offensive here is the suggestion that there was something wrong with what he said. Almost every thread contains worse, dressed up in "polite" language. Come, on. Get a grip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaques Posted September 20, 2012 Share #75 Posted September 20, 2012 if you do a google on this the condemnation is seemingly universal. if you look at all those prototypes - it is really shameful - at what point did they say 'F .. it- let's go to Photokina anyway. '... it is fit that they actually put on a Burlesque show at the opening! This is corporate Burlesque. Looking at some of the 'lunars' you can see they were actually trying to make it look a little like a scaled down H series camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmradman Posted September 20, 2012 Share #76 Posted September 20, 2012 Some serious competition for Lun LensRentals.com - Product Announcement: Lensrentals Looney Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted September 20, 2012 Share #77 Posted September 20, 2012 Some serious competition for Lun LensRentals.com - Product Announcement: Lensrentals Looney Is that a joke ?? I only ask because it's nowhere near as ridiculous as the Hasselblad announcement and prototypes! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaybob Posted September 20, 2012 Share #78 Posted September 20, 2012 is it a rebadged Sony Nex-7? seems so! I'm a Sony user and that's EXACTLY what that is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmradman Posted September 20, 2012 Share #79 Posted September 20, 2012 Is that a joke ?? I only ask because it's nowhere near as ridiculous as the Hasselblad announcement and prototypes! James, Read first line yeah bling on the cheap. Product Announcement: Lensrentals LooneyPosted by Roger Cicala SEP 18 2012 Not to be left out of the spirit of Photokina, Lensrentals today announced it’s first new camera design: the Lensrentals Looney. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garside Posted September 20, 2012 Share #80 Posted September 20, 2012 Got plenty of interest happening in various forums now-the people are watching, what's that they say about no such thing as bad publicity? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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