Trojans Posted July 26, 2012 Share #1 Posted July 26, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi, I'm new to this forum, not sure if this is the correct place to post this question. I'm interested in getting a R 19mm f/2.8 lens. From what I read about it, there're 4 markings on the barrel which signify four different color filters. My question is are the filters already embedded in the lens, or they have to be bought separately and added on the lens when use? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gvaliquette Posted July 26, 2012 Share #2 Posted July 26, 2012 They are built into the lens. If you PM me your e-mail address, I can send you the data sheet for this lens. Leica removes these from their web site when a lens is no longer in production, but I've downloaded quite a number of them on my computer. Guy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a_schmidt_ms Posted July 26, 2012 Share #3 Posted July 26, 2012 Hi there, I agree. I use the version with the integrated filters. Good construction, easy to handle! Also the optical performance of this lens convinces me again and again. Best regards, Andreas Schmidt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xalo Posted July 26, 2012 Share #4 Posted July 26, 2012 Very nice lens indeed. To piggy-back: anyone knows if and how a Lee or Cokin filter holder can be attached to the barrel, given that it has no filter thread? Would like to use it more for landscapes with a graduated ND. Thanks. Alexander Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted July 28, 2012 Share #5 Posted July 28, 2012 Alexander, I didn't find a way to attach and use Lee ND grads but Cokin makes a X-PRO universal filter adaptor that has 3 nylon-tipped screws 120 degrees apart that can be adjusted to fit a variety of lens diameters. It fits my version 2 19/2.8 Elmarit-R and I use Cokin grey grads to add a little drama to leaden skies. The filter width is 85 mm so it won't take my Lee ND grads but I've heard that the Cokin X-PRO ND grads are passable. The 19/2.8's lens hood can't be used with the universal adaptor of course. Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyoung Posted July 28, 2012 Share #6 Posted July 28, 2012 Sounds a bit like the old Kodak one I used on the Sinar for years, predated Cokin etc by decades! Gerry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xalo Posted July 28, 2012 Share #7 Posted July 28, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Thanks a lot, Pete, this looks like a very good option! Gerry, thanks for the hint. Will do some search in this direction, fixation with three screws. Could perhaps also be home-made I just ordered two Lee ND grads and a "foundation kit" from Linhofstudio... so if I could avoid investing into a second filter system... I went for the Lees since they will also fit my RB67 lenses (77mm thread) and because I read that the Cokin ND grads were not entirely neutral, a bit on the magenta side - that could be tricky, on slide film especially. But this might well be a cyber legend. Cheers, Alexander P.S.: Yes, underlining dramatic skies was what I had in mind, too; but also just preventing to burn them, as the light on the Breton coast often is just very bright. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted July 28, 2012 Share #8 Posted July 28, 2012 ... I went for the Lees since they will also fit my RB67 lenses (77mm thread) and because I read that the Cokin ND grads were not entirely neutral, a bit on the magenta side - that could be tricky, on slide film especially. But this might well be a cyber legend.Cheers, Alexander P.S.: Yes, underlining dramatic skies was what I had in mind, too; but also just preventing to burn them, as the light on the Breton coast often is just very bright. Alexander, I used the Cokin grey grads in my Lee holders* with Velvia 120 on my Pentax 67 for many years and they didn't produce any magenta at all although I recognise that I might be talking at cross-purposes. I never found that I needed to use either Cokin or Lee ND grads but YMMV. Pete. * I needed to add a thin strip of cellotape down each side to build the thickness of the Cokin grey grads to suit the Lee's 'holding fingers' and it worked well for years. I was using a 45/4 Pentax lens (equivalent to 20mm in 135 format) and vignetting wasn't a problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xalo Posted July 28, 2012 Share #9 Posted July 28, 2012 Pete, will see how it works out when I have the filters. The difference between the shadowed cliffs or ruins and the blinding sky (or parts of it between clouds) was often something that I did not manage to handle well on either slide film (Astia, Provia; RF645, Canon & Leica) or sensor (no reference re/dynamic range: RD-1, Oly E-3). Sure enough, that's not a problem of the light registering surface alone Good to hear that the 50/4,5 of my Mamiya should have no vignetting issue with the Lee holder (I ordered the wideangle adapter, anyway). Alexander Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyoung Posted July 28, 2012 Share #10 Posted July 28, 2012 I made an adaptor for my heliar 15mm, which has no filter thread, I have the Cokin system since donkeys years, I used the Pro system which is larger, a screw adaptor large enough to clear the barrel, then a strip of felt packing glued round the inside of the aperture so it is a nice tight slide on fit. I always use gelatins with such wide angles, much.less likely to have problems with the thickness, but no good for grads! Gerry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xalo Posted July 28, 2012 Share #11 Posted July 28, 2012 The idea of the felt packing is excellent, Gerry. I thought of using a larger-than-the-barrel screw adapter as well, but would have gone trying to bore three holes in it and glue nuts for nylon screws - infinitely more fiddly, no doubt! Alexander Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xalo Posted August 1, 2012 Share #12 Posted August 1, 2012 Update: a 77mm-72mm adapter ring padded with two and a bit layers of gaffer tape fits tightly over the lens barrell and can take the filter holder. The gaffer will not stick forever when pushed and pulled, but can be easily redone. The Lee kit just arrived today, great stuff, very nicely done and swiftly shipped. Will try it during vacation! Thanks again for the help. Alexander Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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