lars_bergquist Posted July 30, 2012 Share #21 Posted July 30, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Kingslake seems to be right. It was generally known already before 1900 that lenses that had spontaneously acquired a "blooming" on their surfaces had superior transmission and flare characteristics. Various experiments were done with different processes and substances. This was indeed a big issue. A Planar type double-Gauss lens has at a minimum eight air-glass surfaces. Every one of them increased flare and internal reflections logarithmically. This was essentially the reason behind the Sonnar lenses, which are really cemented triplets, with six air-glass surfaces, just like a Cooke triplet! This worked, but restricted the degrees of freedom available to the designer. You had to sacrifice something; in the Sonnar case, it was largely planeity of field. Coating made it possible to break out of this straitjacket – and the double-Gauss design came to dominate the scene for nearly half a century. Of course the German authorities failed in their attempt to restrict the knowledge. You can't suppress the knowledge of natural laws, and the correct answer was quite close at hand, as proven by Kodak's early trials with calcium fluoride. Higher temperatures, a harder vacuum and extreme cleanliness were the answers to the problems. In other words, straightforward process development. Similarly, there was no 'secret of the atomic bomb' as the hysterical press (and Joe McCarthy) would have it. Not since that Christmas Day 1939 in the snowy woods outside Kungälv, Sweden, when Lise Meitner explained to her nephew Otto Frisch what Otto Hahn had done, but not understood – split the atom. The genie was out of the bottle. (And Heisenberg and others in Germany came to understand it too, but deemed the purely technological challenge to be too great.) The old man with a kinky, but long memory Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted July 30, 2012 Posted July 30, 2012 Hi lars_bergquist, Take a look here Versions of the Summarex. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
jc_braconi Posted July 30, 2012 Share #22 Posted July 30, 2012 Similarly, there was no 'secret of the atomic bomb' as the hysterical press (and Joe McCarthy) would have it. Not since that Christmas Day 1939 in the snowy woods outside Kungälv, Sweden, when Lise Meitner explained to her nephew Otto Frisch what Otto Hahn had done, but not understood – split the atom. The genie was out of the bottle. (And Heisenberg and others in Germany came to understand it too, but deemed the purely technological challenge to be too great.) The old man with a kinky, but long memory The real history is writen in Jonas Jonasson book :The Hundred-Year-Old Man Who Climbed Out the Window and Disappeared , which I just finnish to read Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Geschlecht Posted July 30, 2012 Share #23 Posted July 30, 2012 Hello Jean Claude, Which is? Best Regards, Michael Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc_braconi Posted July 31, 2012 Share #24 Posted July 31, 2012 Hello Jean Claude, Which is? Best Regards, Michael Try to find this book on your country Amazon.** you will not be disapointed... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted July 31, 2012 Share #25 Posted July 31, 2012 Fun book that is worth to read... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
insomnigraphic Posted October 12, 2020 Share #26 Posted October 12, 2020 On 7/24/2012 at 4:31 PM, jc_braconi said: This 1954 issued one is in feet scale s/n 1 159 xxx : Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! My copy is in feet scale and in the 940xxx serial range. I love it for its copious character. A really unique portrait and art lens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beoon Posted October 27, 2024 Share #27 Posted October 27, 2024 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have been searching for information on the Summarex lens and came across this post from a few years ago. Recently I purchased a set of 4 Summarex filters in their original boxes, although I don't actually own a Summarex lens. I can also show an article on Leitz lens coatings that I read recently and was very interesting. Regards Alan Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/183852-versions-of-the-summarex/?do=findComment&comment=5675471'>More sharing options...
seekwhence Posted November 8, 2024 Share #28 Posted November 8, 2024 I am sure everyone in this thread has seen the early (593008) Summarex on eBay that's been there for a while. I badly want a black Summarex; however, to me, it seems to be something to pass up because of the condition issues and the price. Even when I spoke with master repairman Youxin Ye, he said it was definitely collectible but he could do nothing about the fungus and separation and it would just make a homely display piece. I'd welcome reading the opinions of others who have been in the situation where they faced the dilemma of rarity vs. condition vs. price... Dave (seekwhence) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alphonse2501 Posted November 8, 2024 Share #29 Posted November 8, 2024 47 minutes ago, seekwhence said: I am sure everyone in this thread has seen the early (593008) Summarex on eBay that's been there for a while. I badly want a black Summarex; however, to me, it seems to be something to pass up because of the condition issues and the price. Even when I spoke with master repairman Youxin Ye, he said it was definitely collectible but he could do nothing about the fungus and separation and it would just make a homely display piece. I'd welcome reading the opinions of others who have been in the situation where they faced the dilemma of rarity vs. condition vs. price... Dave (seekwhence) Have you asked Don from DAG? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted November 8, 2024 Share #30 Posted November 8, 2024 If you want a better one... 😗 https://www.ebay.it/itm/286099650097 For such items any advice is someway peddling.... a black Summarex with that number is a high level collectible and full originality is more important than conditions : the only warning I really find is the mood of the description ("king of Bokeh" 😁 ,"If you want it cheaper i Will lower the price...") which arises some issue about seriosity of the seller. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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