nelly Posted July 17, 2012 Share #21 Posted July 17, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) I managed to find a 90mm tele-elmarit in perfect condition very late edition 342xxxx made in Germany not Canada for a very reasonable price. Lens performs incredibly well and best of all it is tiny compared to other 90's I recommend looking out for one of these. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jaapv Posted July 17, 2012 Share #22 Posted July 17, 2012 Thank you all for your kind input. I knew I came to the right place for my dillemma. I am keeping my lenses for now and see how my photography takes me. I have this feel I may need the 90mm, for example when I go for SAFARI?. But I dont want to spend 3000K for the 90mm and keep 35 or 50 just for the sake of keeping it if you know what I mean Anyway thanks guys, I guess only time can tell and I shouldnt rush. Ummm...safari? Your 90 will be neither here nor there. Start thinking 300 mm+ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AB007 Posted July 17, 2012 Share #23 Posted July 17, 2012 Ummm...safari? Your 90 will be neither here nor there. Start thinking 300 mm+ +1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramosa Posted July 18, 2012 Share #24 Posted July 18, 2012 If you need to sell a lens, sell it. I have sold four RF lenses over the last few years and only have mild regrets about one, oddly the only non-Leica lens I have ever owned. I sold a Lux 50 asph earlier this year and don't regret it one bit. Some people think they need eight lenses, while others think they need just one. Only you can decide. Good luck with your decision. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted July 18, 2012 Share #25 Posted July 18, 2012 I agree with Ramosa. I have sold 3 or so Leica lenses over the last couple of years (2 x 35 Summicron and a 75 Summicron) and not regretted it. People keep lenses of different styles and different focal lengths for their own reasons. I suspect that I have too many lenses, and may be better cutting back. But then, I like a mixed bag of focal lengths and styles, without duplicating focal lengths. So, I have the following for my M9-P & M3: 21 Summilix ASPH (Karbe) 28 Summicron ASPH (Kolsch?) 35 Summilux ASPH (FLE) (Karbe) 50 Summilux ASPH (Karbe) 50 Noctilux ASPH (FLE) (Karbe) 75 Summilux (Mandler) I sold the lenses when I had duplication and could see no benefit in keeping more than one lens of the same focal length. Each also has a different character, with the 21, 35 & 50 Sx being similar in style, the 28 Sn being a favourite for its size and field of view, the Nx 50 having a special rendition wide, and the 75 Sx being softer (and being a lens of which Dr Mandler was apparently most proud). There's a lifetime of learning in there for me, so I don't see any new lenses coming any time soon. Cheers John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikenic Posted July 18, 2012 Share #26 Posted July 18, 2012 To go on safari, a suggestion. Keep the 35mm Summicron, its a known good one. Sell the 50 summilux. Ouch. With the lux money. Buy 50mm rigid to replace. (Yes, older, slower, but cheaper, still good and you are back to the same focal lengths you started with.) Buy a D800 with suitable (long) tele. Long and short bases are now covered for safari. Some 50 speed and lux rendering characteristics are lost but .... Not too much changeover $$$ pain and there you are on safari with appropriate kit. OK, but then again, perhaps not OK for you, but sort of an option??. You need to crunch the numbers I guess. Just a thought. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 18, 2012 Share #27 Posted July 18, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Do you know what a proper safari costs? The lens prices are rather irrelevant in comparison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted July 18, 2012 Share #28 Posted July 18, 2012 ...or get an older 135mm Leica with a GXR or equivalent. This will give you an approx. 180mm lens (and backup camera) which will probably do the job if you're unlikely to otherwise use a longer lens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted July 18, 2012 Share #29 Posted July 18, 2012 I have 21mm 2.8 Zeiss and I have the 50mm Sumilux. Question is do I need to keep my 35mm cron, or Get rid of it and get a more telephoto lens?. What would you do? 1) 21 to 50 is a huge step 2) 21 + 35 is a nice duo of WA for a full frame 3) Selling a Leica Lens, and a Summicron expecially, is seldom a good choice (the only lens I sold was my Summicron 40 : can be that I would have no more used it anyway... but fact is that I regret to have done) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted July 18, 2012 Share #30 Posted July 18, 2012 Do you know what a proper safari costs? The lens prices are rather irrelevant in comparison. I don't. Maybe you could impress me? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinnfell Posted July 18, 2012 Share #31 Posted July 18, 2012 You know what they say: Never sell a leica lens... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 18, 2012 Share #32 Posted July 18, 2012 I don't. Maybe you could impress me?Just visit your nearest travel agency...And I don't need to impress - I travel through less commercial channels, I couldn't afford the Abercrombie and Kent crowd prices in a hundred years.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdriceman Posted July 19, 2012 Share #33 Posted July 19, 2012 I'm with Jaap on the safari. Just get the right equipment, you'll be glad you did. You can rent top notch equipment for a fraction of the cost of the safari... Even an improper one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
salim Posted July 20, 2012 Author Share #34 Posted July 20, 2012 I guess I was looking this the wrong way. For Safari, I may need a top notch lens and not necessary I should use a leica Lens or Camera. Thing is I am used to travel light. I guess If I am going to spend the money for Safari, I may as well take the hassel and bring with me my CAnon 5D MarK II and get one nice telephoto lens with it. Thanks guys, in a nutshell I dont need a 90mm for my other photography, what I have (21,35 and 50) is good enough. On rare occasion I can always pick up MY BULKY CANON WHICH I HATE. Thanks ya all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted July 20, 2012 Share #35 Posted July 20, 2012 I guess I was looking this the wrong way. For Safari, I may need a top notch lens and not necessary I should use a leica Lens or Camera... Not necessary... but you could... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/183815-shall-i-get-rid-off-my-35mm-cron/?do=findComment&comment=2067172'>More sharing options...
Scarlet Posted July 20, 2012 Share #36 Posted July 20, 2012 For my first safari, I visited Aberdare, Masai Mara and Ngorongoro Crater over the course of four weeks (added in Kilimanjaro as well). Incidentally it was with two friends of mine and we simply took regular flights to Nairobi, rented a Landcruiser and drove around. I shot an EOS 1N at the time and bought two lenses for the safari, a 200L (f2.8) and a 2x converter. Total cost (new) around 1200€ at the time. Given the resolution of today's cameras and the resulting crop possibilities one doesn't need a super-tele - 400mm is fine. I would of course bring a Leica too and I would use my old 1934 13,5cm Hektor on occasion depending on the situation. For instance were I to re-visit Aberdare, which is a forested park with (usually) shorter distances to the wildlife, I would likely be able to get shots with that lens. It would be unnecessary, if cash is tight, to buy the latest digital cameras for a safari. Better to buy an old, well-functioning 5D and used lenses. For anyone interested in Nikon I'm sure there are similar options. There are cheaper options as well - just get a PowerShot SX40 HS with optical zoom to 840mm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdriceman Posted July 20, 2012 Share #37 Posted July 20, 2012 I guess I was looking this the wrong way. For Safari, I may need a top notch lens and not necessary I should use a leica Lens or Camera. Thing is I am used to travel light. I guess If I am going to spend the money for Safari, I may as well take the hassel and bring with me my CAnon 5D MarK II and get one nice telephoto lens with it. Thanks guys, in a nutshell I dont need a 90mm for my other photography, what I have (21,35 and 50) is good enough. On rare occasion I can always pick up MY BULKY CANON WHICH I HATE. Thanks ya all Consider renting unless you are planning many other safari or more wildlife shoots. It is very reasonable and it's nice knowing the equipment bouncing around on the safari isn't your long term investment. And instead of the 5dII I would consider a 7D which has an 18Mpix APS C sensor (the 5DII will give you 14Mpix on the same crop) and the 7D has much better auto-focus than the 5DIi ( I know, I know Jaap, you don't use auto focus on your safaris, but if you're going with an auto focus camera, you might as well get one with good auto focus). Buy another Leica lens with the money you save. Just something to think about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlet Posted July 20, 2012 Share #38 Posted July 20, 2012 Autofocus is required for certain situations but, actually, a lot of wildlife is remarkably stationary and patient focusing does work. Still autofocus makes the photographic process easier. A cutting edge latest greatest camera is, however, not necessary and shouldn't be considered if cash is in short supply. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 21, 2012 Share #39 Posted July 21, 2012 I wonder how I manage without that "essential" feature... For most wildlife photography focus placement is essential, and the moment will be gone before the photographer has finished fiddling his focus points. By far the best is a plain matte screen. But we a far, far OT. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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