Gerard Posted July 13, 2012 Share #1 Â Posted July 13, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Is it me... Or does this look on the chunky side: Is this the Leica M10? | Leica News & Rumors Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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earleygallery Posted July 13, 2012 Share #2 Â Posted July 13, 2012 Larger screen, being held in a Zombie like fashion........looks about the same size as an M8/9 otherwise. Is that an AF lens?........ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdai Posted July 13, 2012 Share #3 Â Posted July 13, 2012 Interesting ... the lens doesn't seem familiar - ugly but may be just a prototype. Great - I'd buy one if they do adopt the question mark in its nomenclature. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bocaburger Posted July 13, 2012 Share #4 Â Posted July 13, 2012 It looks to me like a shot of an M8, distorted by a combination of telephoto compression, noise and other artifacts. Not saying it couldn't be an M10, but if it is, seems likely it's a test mule in an M8 shell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted July 13, 2012 Share #5 Â Posted July 13, 2012 Â ....................... Great - I'd buy one if they do adopt the question mark in its nomenclature. Â Â :D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmradman Posted July 13, 2012 Share #6  Posted July 13, 2012 Real or not it lacks M8 counter window and includes X2 electronic accessory port below hot shoe. P&S style of holding the camera at arm’s length suggest live view capability.  Sadly no neck strap seems to be included - subtle advertising by Leica how cool it is to handle strapless camera which subsequently can be dropped, claimed on insurance (or not) and replacement camera purchased. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Mathias Posted July 13, 2012 Share #7 Â Posted July 13, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hello everyone. Â Is it just my hallucination or does the camera in the pictures have six buttons to the left of the screen rather than the five we have on our M cameras? Also, if I mimic the way the person in the picture holds the camera and look at how my fingers bend (I wear M-size gloves so I take liberty of using my hands a standard here), the body should be about 1cm or so higher than that of my M9-P. Either that, or the person using the Mystery has really small hands. Â Jan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted July 13, 2012 Share #8  Posted July 13, 2012 .. it lacks M8 counter window .. Sadly no neck strap seems to be included  The M9 lacks an M8 counter window as well. It may not have a neck strap but it does have lugs to attach one, much like the M8 shown in the same article.  It does appear taller than the M8, though. The wheel is located much higher. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmradman Posted July 13, 2012 Share #9  Posted July 13, 2012 Hello everyone. Is it just my hallucination or does the camera in the pictures have six buttons to the left of the screen rather than the five we have on our M cameras? Also, if I mimic the way the person in the picture holds the camera and look at how my fingers bend (I wear M-size gloves so I take liberty of using my hands a standard here), the body should be about 1cm or so higher than that of my M9-P. Either that, or the person using the Mystery has really small hands.  Jan  Have a second look, those are female hands, there is a clue her nails are manicured, I could be wrong of course but usually can spot dainty female hand at distance. There are other differences between male and female but those differences are not visible on the person holding mystery camera, however differences are shown on the golden plaque that was fired into space aboard Pioneer 10.  The M9 lacks an M8 counter window as well. It may not have a neck strap but it does have lugs to attach one, much like the M8 shown in the same article. It does appear taller than the M8, though. The wheel is located much higher.  Indeed M9 top plate lacks counter but also emulates top plate of M3 or MP only without rewind crank unlike top plate of mystery M? camera that looks distinctly like M8 - flat on viewfinder side.  Strap lugs how passe, on M9T these are detachable. All cool bloggers shoot their borrowed Leicas without neck strap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelRabern Posted July 14, 2012 Share #10 Â Posted July 14, 2012 These photos are very suspect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted July 14, 2012 Share #11 Â Posted July 14, 2012 These photos are very suspect. Â Why? As someone with 20 years Photoshop experience and a journalist's skeptical mind, I don't see anything obvious that makes them suspect. Â I'd say it's much easier to fake something clean and clear (like the M8 illustration included with the snaps) than fake all that noise and jpeg/mpeg compression and get the artifacts to line up and look continuous and unaltered. Â And some of the details are exactly what I would expect a photoshopper to forget or get wrong (but a real product designer/engineer to get right in a prototype): changed location of the "Leica Camera Made in Germany" labelling; the "plug" below the hot shoe; the sixth menu button (Leica minimalism - add just one button for "live view" ); the bald grippable lens barrel with just an aperture ring and a thin "focus-by-wire" rim for the fingertips; the compact silver jog-dial or joystick or whatever it may be. Â Not that I necessarily think they are real, either. Or that they are "accurate" even if real. The M8-style flat top could just be dezinformatsiya, like the fake bodywork used by car makers to disguise prototype cars during road tests. Heck, the optical viewfinder itself could be misdirection (a dummy) and this is the "EVIL-only" body getting a workout. Â I wouldn't run out and sell (or buy) an M9 today just because of these. I'd like to see the entire pictures (or video frames) from which these are supposedly tight crops, to get a sense of the environment, lighting and such. But they are an interesting data point to add to whatever other information or pix appear between now and PK. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWW Posted July 14, 2012 Share #12 Â Posted July 14, 2012 It does very much look like it has a phony stick on camouflage top and front plate on the body. Not sure what it's hiding though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 14, 2012 Share #13 Â Posted July 14, 2012 Fake or not, it appears to have an EVF interface under the hot shoe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NZDavid Posted July 14, 2012 Share #14 Â Posted July 14, 2012 Grainy, fuzzy, noisy -- it's gotta be a genuine scoop of the Real Thing! EVF, big screen, live view, R lenses via an adaptor, AF -- what else might it have?! What other clues? Writing on the top plate. What does it say? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelRabern Posted July 14, 2012 Share #15  Posted July 14, 2012 Why? As someone with 20 years Photoshop experience and a journalist's skeptical mind, I don't see anything obvious that makes them suspect. I'd say it's much easier to fake something clean and clear (like the M8 illustration included with the snaps) than fake all that noise and jpeg/mpeg compression and get the artifacts to line up and look continuous and unaltered.  Are you say'n your old or are you swearing in? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWC Doppel Posted July 14, 2012 Share #16 Â Posted July 14, 2012 I have never seen a new Camera by Leica on test before release. But if its anything like other industries if they could 'force' it into an older style case for testing I suspect they would. Â Interesting though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 14, 2012 Share #17 Â Posted July 14, 2012 The M9 prototypes for the beta testers had an M8 engraving and a little rubber block to camouflage the cutout on the top plate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rramesh Posted July 14, 2012 Share #18 Â Posted July 14, 2012 Could be anything. Even a non-Leica camera disguised like one and then shot in a really grainy style like a Loch Ness monster. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosuna Posted July 14, 2012 Share #19  Posted July 14, 2012 Hello everyone. Is it just my hallucination or does the camera in the pictures have six buttons to the left of the screen rather than the five we have on our M cameras? Also, if I mimic the way the person in the picture holds the camera and look at how my fingers bend (I wear M-size gloves so I take liberty of using my hands a standard here), the body should be about 1cm or so higher than that of my M9-P. Either that, or the person using the Mystery has really small hands.  Jan  It seems to be a woman... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Mathias Posted July 14, 2012 Share #20 Â Posted July 14, 2012 It seems to be a woman... Â I was aware of that (the nails and the comments on leicarumors gave it pretty much away). That's why I was referencing my hand size. Unless the woman in the picture has XS hands, it doesn't detract from the likeliness that this camera is taller than a M9-P. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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