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any suggestions for anyone/website/service that you can submit your photos or body of work and pay for an in depth critique of the photos and style of photography?

 

i know i can submit to forums and get bits of advice and criticism but wasn't sure of there is something else out there where i can gain an even greater understanding of my style of photography and an in depth critique of my photos as i try to improve my photography.

 

thank you kindly.

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I´m seriously considering going that route (I have to get proficient with the M9 I don´t yet have first, though...) :) . Thein is a great photographer, and I´d love to get some advice from someone like him. $800 for a ten-photograph course? Not too bad, in my opinion. Cheaper than a used Summarit 35!

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any suggestions for anyone/website/service that you can submit your photos or body of work and pay for an in depth critique of the photos and style of photography?

 

i know i can submit to forums and get bits of advice and criticism but wasn't sure of there is something else out there where i can gain an even greater understanding of my style of photography and an in depth critique of my photos as i try to improve my photography.

 

thank you kindly.

 

You could also try1x.com

 

Decent level and very helpful.

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any suggestions for anyone/website/service that you can submit your photos or body of work and pay for an in depth critique of the photos and style of photography?

 

i know i can submit to forums and get bits of advice and criticism but wasn't sure of there is something else out there where i can gain an even greater understanding of my style of photography and an in depth critique of my photos as i try to improve my photography.

 

thank you kindly.

 

Whatever you do, DO NOT post them on this forum, unless you want to discover a new meaning to the word PAIN !!! :cool:

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Depending on your location and your ability to attend in person, many universities and colleges have evening/weekend adult courses. Our department offers several including an 'art appreciation' course which includes critiquing images throughout history (which can be very helpful with your own work), and also class critique of student images. Some schools are also offering online instruction.

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Another option is to research living photographers whose work you admire, and whose style may be compatible with your own, to determine if they offer workshops. Then seek opinions on the workshop experience; as with any field, great practitioners don't always make the best teachers and/or critics.

 

Many workshops include portfolio reviews, including past work as well as work produced during the workshop. Often there is more than one reviewer involved.

 

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You don't need to pay for this kind of thing. There really are people out there wanting to find new peoples work.

 

The best thing you can do is a get a body of work together that you are happy with. One that you are ready to hear the good and bad about. Do some research, find the photographers work that you like and aspire to. Find out their agent and contact them. Send a personal, polite email, not too short, not too long. Tell them something about your self and your work what has lead you to contact them and ask them if they would mind spending 10 minutes with you to give you some direction with your work. There is an art to this email. It's not difficult you just have to think it through.

 

The other route is to do the same with magazines. Again, research and look for the magazines you would really aspire to be published in. Generally the people to contact at magazines are the Picture Editor, the picture desk or photo director. Even better if you can get some time with the Art Director.

 

It's all about research, carefully worded emails and a body of work that is relevant to what they do. This way you know you are getting a good opinion also. I personally would be wary of "folio consultants" unless they are something like an agent, and art buyer, a gallery owner etc etc. But seriously you don't have to pay for this kind of thing. Also in London we have the photographers gallery. They do folio meets where you can bring your folio along and someone will review it. Where are you based? Do you have a similar kind of gallery?

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Hi James,

 

One of the reasons I think paid critique is useless is it's more than likely going to be biased. It's akin to going to a fortune teller.

 

False encouragement is really useless and you may as well just throw your money away. When you hear honest and constructive feedback from some one who knows what they are talking about, even if it's not all good, it's the best encouragement you can receive because you know with change you can better. It's even more encouraging if people can help you with what to change.

 

Same thing goes for asking friends. They're more than likely to say nice things or have completely good intentions but just be simply biased. Great if you have a great friend that is just really honest.

 

For your work to get better you need honesty. If you really want to get better, and I gather that Stump does, you need to be ready to hear what people don't like about your work so you can confront that. You either listen and still like your work the way it is or you listen and learn how you can change things. After a while of doing it you actually find your own voice and don't care if people don't like your work anyway because it is true to you and you like it because you took it for a reason. Honest critique helps you get there. It challenges you to believe in your own work the way it is. Or it compels you to change and get better.

 

Besides. If you put everything into your work and it's really the best you can do what's to worry? There is no right and wrong with photography so what is to worry about? Cut to the chase and get on with. Learn about your work and style. And what's to say the person doesn't go mad for your work and want to help get it published.

 

Also I question anyone who consults peoples folios for money. I've never met anyone who is good enough to do it, want to make a career out of it or take money for it, they are usually busy running an art gallery or a photo agency etc etc. Teachers and lecturers excluded of corse. These people like to find new artists work. They like to look. You'll probably find them as encouraging as you want, particularly if you go to them with that frame of mind.

 

edited to add - if you can find something like the Magnum Portfolio review that Andy posted above, take it. Something reputed like this would be great.

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i agree that honest blunt and brutal from forums is great, but i think it might be great if one could pay for honest blunt and brutal because when you are paying for something you can ask a lot of questions and get someone to really focus on your work and get an in depth review of your style, place, method, and work, since you are paying.

 

just a thought.

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You might consider joining PPSNYS. It is a NY based pro organization, [all welcome] for $3oo. or less, depending on your location in the state. there are print competitions and print critiques. Monthly meetings and free critiques.

The monthly meetings have talent from all over the US. giving seminars. Many are leaders in their fields. You get to meet the pros in your area and get their assistance and advice.

The bases of the organization is education.

check out the web site, PPSNYS - Professional Photographers' Society of New York State

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Check the photo clubs in your area. Find one where the general style of photography appeals to you and join.

Or take a photography course at your local university or take workshops.

There are a few forum members offering Leica-oriented workshops, there is the Leica Akademie. But to pay somebody out there who makes it a business to critique you? Make sure there are no latex suits and whips involved :D

Seriously, I would be very uncomfortable with paid critique - the guy offering the service may be the greatest photographer in the world, but how do you know he is a decent critique?

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i agree that honest blunt and brutal from forums is great...

 

I find them - not just this one - very non-critical (either in a positive or a negative critical sense). Too many 'great capture' type comments. People who criticise tend to be told that it's only their opinion - the subtext being that it's really a great photograph, but the person criticising it is a muppet.

 

Please don't think I'm advocating rudeness, you can have negative views about a photograph without attacking the photography or using emotionally charged language. If you don't like something, and decide to say so, I think you should at least say why you don't like it rather than post a blanket "it's a pile of crap".

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Check the photo clubs in your area

 

My experience of photo clubs has not been positive. If you want some one to praise the sharpness of your lenses then my experience has been that they're fine. In my experience they tend to be pretty conservative places with regard to subject matter and composition.

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