jaapv Posted May 12, 2012 Share #41 Â Posted May 12, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Well, it should teach you whom to believe... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mdt2 Posted May 12, 2012 Share #42 Â Posted May 12, 2012 Jaap- Â Well that is true. I knew what I wanted and the M9 fits it perfectly. Â -Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adli Posted May 12, 2012 Share #43 Â Posted May 12, 2012 Well, it should teach you whom to believe... Â Says who Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdriceman Posted May 12, 2012 Share #44 Â Posted May 12, 2012 Â Actually I did chew on the wool sock my wife ensured that I did. Â Now I understand. If I had been forced to eat a wool sock, I would be looking for someone to apologize also. However, I see nothing Leica should apologize for (other than perhaps the price tags on the MM and the new Summicron 50!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdsheepdog Posted May 12, 2012 Share #45  Posted May 12, 2012 You did, Michael. That you did. On the upside, my M9-P, my M3 and fine selection of lenses work as well now as they did yesterday, and I'm not in the market for any new camera gear for the next 10 years or so (at least, according to my wife).  Cheers John The weird thing is that it is my wife who wants it. And, she says, "The cool thing is that I can use all your lenses!"  Maybe she will let me use it once in a while, "Puleeeeze, sweetheart!" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 12, 2012 Share #46 Â Posted May 12, 2012 Now I understand. If I had been forced to eat a wool sock, I would be looking for someone to apologize also. However, I see nothing Leica should apologize for (other than perhaps the price tags on the MM and the new Summicron 50!) Â it might be a washed wool sock... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALD Posted May 12, 2012 Author Share #47 Â Posted May 12, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Actually it was the one on my foot from my pyjamas 2 days use. Â But now please let me know if you agree with me. Â Leica is a luxury brand, the vast majority of people related M10 with May 10. Are the products announced not so exceptionally good that they sell themselves? Why resort to the marketing tricks of building suspense in people, causing frustration, think about that for a second. Causing frustration to sell a product! They could have just announced it and invited everybody for the demo. The same guys wold go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 12, 2012 Share #48 Â Posted May 12, 2012 Get real, man. Leica invested well over 1 million dollar in this event. The sole object was to sell gear. It worked, just see the stir in the forums. I loved it, and so did most guests, despite the occasional Booboo for the gallery. As I see it I have been spending your money Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted May 12, 2012 Share #49  Posted May 12, 2012 Why resort to the marketing tricks of building suspense in people  They announced an event on the 10th of May. They released new items on that date. Where's the problem? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALD Posted May 12, 2012 Author Share #50 Â Posted May 12, 2012 Don't you worry if there is one thing I have observed in this cosmos it is this: Â Nothing that is wrong, no matter how banal or insignificant it may be, fails to get away unscathed. Â Excess, luxury, deceit and consumption these are wrongs. Â Karma comes, karma comes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdriceman Posted May 13, 2012 Share #51  Posted May 13, 2012 Don't you worry if there is one thing I have observed in this cosmos it is this: Nothing that is wrong, no matter how banal or insignificant it may be, fails to get away unscathed.  Excess, luxury, deceit and consumption these are wrongs.  Karma comes, karma comes  So, you are saying that Leica intentionally set out to deceive their loyal and well-heeled customers by choosing May 10? Now, they are secretly laughing at the ruse they orchestrated on their customers? Because of this, the Cosmos will have it's revenge on Leica? I just don't know.... Seems pretty far fetched to me. I think they just had some new products ready to go and wanted to announce them 4 or 5 months before the the next big event- Photokina. So, they picked a Thursday in May that happened to be May 10. Jeez, it's just a camera company announcing some new products. I really don't think the cosmos cares. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted May 13, 2012 Share #52 Â Posted May 13, 2012 Don't you worry if there is one thing I have observed in this cosmos it is this:Â Nothing that is wrong, no matter how banal or insignificant it may be, fails to get away unscathed. Perhaps the banality of your expectation has now been 'scathed! Â Excess, luxury, deceit and consumption these are wrongs. According to whom, and who defines them? Â Karma comes, karma comes ...... and so does the M10, but neither have yet been announced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted May 13, 2012 Share #53 Â Posted May 13, 2012 ... the vast majority of people related M10 with May 10. .... Actually, no they didn't. There are currently 70,672 registered members on this forum yet maybe (I'm being charitable here) 50 members related May 10th to M10, which is certainly not a vast majority is it? And that's ignoring all of those people who are not members of this forum of course. Â Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 13, 2012 Share #54 Â Posted May 13, 2012 23 by my count... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted May 13, 2012 Share #55 Â Posted May 13, 2012 To the OP: Â Oh my god, the M10 wasn't announced on May 10:eek:. Is your life and photography impoverished because of this? Â Who was really expecting the M10 to be announced before Photokina? Maybe it will not even be released then. The M9 is still selling well with ongoing shortages of new lenses, the M Monochrom has just been released, and EVIL winds are howling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALD Posted May 13, 2012 Author Share #56 Â Posted May 13, 2012 Ho Hum few people understand. Advertising and the consumption culture has already dramatically changed the world. Everyone here knows that everyone was expecting an M10 and not the M9M. The Internet was rife with that expectation. Leica utilized that expectation to draw more people full well knowing it would not be. if people are so desensitized that they cannot see that it is wrong even if it's no big deal then so be it. Â Let's just close off this thread please mods. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted May 13, 2012 Share #57 Â Posted May 13, 2012 Ho Hum few people understand. Advertising and the consumption culture has already dramatically changed the world. ... Not my world and I'm happy to say that it never will. Â Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted May 13, 2012 Share #58 Â Posted May 13, 2012 Most of the people at the event on Thursday will already have known what was to be released, so they haven't been drawn to an event under false pretences. Â Everyone else with an interest remains at the comfort of their own office or home. Â I really cannot see that Leica needs to apologise for anything - to think so is just ridiculous, IMHO. They had a launch of several new products - they have got them well out of the way before Photokina, where the real event is more likely to take place. Sounds like very good marketing to me. Â Next week, when the excitement of this launch dies down, as it inevitably will, then we can have some fun for the next 4 months second guessing "will they, won't they" all over again. This time, you can invite yourself to the excitement in Cologne. Â My advice is to stay close to Jono Slack, see where he's off to on "holiday" this summer, and get a sneaky look-see inside his Billingham Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveYork Posted May 13, 2012 Share #59 Â Posted May 13, 2012 It was excellent marketing by Leica. The amount of free publicity generated leading up to the event far exceeded the cost. Anyone who has been with the brand for awhile knows that Leica doesn't change products up so quickly, and really can't, based on their size. We'll only see an M10 when sales of new M9s start to slip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblitz Posted May 13, 2012 Share #60 Â Posted May 13, 2012 looking at the may 10 event and upcoming photokina, i am wondering whether the rather modest change to the x1 for a rather immodest increase in price, signals that an EVIL solution will be announced in the fall. there is, in my opinion, no real need for the x line and the evil, and perhaps the x2 is a step towards finishing this line -- one last upgrade that prices into a small niche, sending it to the world of product benign neglect. just a thought while everyone is focused on henri and the uber summicron. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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