jneilt Posted April 28, 2012 Share #1 Â Posted April 28, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have a 21/3.4, 35/2 asph, 50/2 and 90/2 summicron-m pre-asph. With this lens set I generally prefer the 'look' of the 50/2 and 90/2 summicron-m lenses that are not asph. Â Should I look for a v3 summilux e46 or consider the newer. I know the newer has supposedly better bokah, but is the bokah on the v3 e46 that terrible? Any other differences I should know about? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fgcm Posted April 28, 2012 Share #2 Â Posted April 28, 2012 50 lux asph is a class by itself. Try one and you will buy it. Â If you buy it, do not sell your summicron. Lux and cron rendering are very different. Worth to keep both. Â Fgcm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
haroldp Posted April 28, 2012 Share #3  Posted April 28, 2012 50 lux asph is a class by itself. Try one and you will buy it.  If you buy it, do not sell your summicron. Lux and cron rendering are very different. Worth to keep both.  Fgcm  exactly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wda Posted April 28, 2012 Share #4 Â Posted April 28, 2012 Sound advice; endorsed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest snowboarder Posted April 28, 2012 Share #5 Â Posted April 28, 2012 Try to get one - good luck! Some have been waiting for months... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpalme Posted April 29, 2012 Share #6 Â Posted April 29, 2012 Might as well get it out of your system. Go ahead and get it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lars_bergquist Posted April 29, 2012 Share #7  Posted April 29, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Buy a 'lux – and sell the 'cron. That lens has spoiled many a good shot for me with its sensitivity to various stray light phenomena, both classical all-over flare and strange flare patches in the image. I want to be able to trust my equipment.  The old man from the Age of the 5cm Elmar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecar Posted April 29, 2012 Share #8 Â Posted April 29, 2012 According to rumors, May 10th may bring another option. However, I suspect that if a new Cron 50 ASPH shows up, its rendering may be very similar to that of the Lux. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyedward Posted April 29, 2012 Share #9 Â Posted April 29, 2012 I am in a position to order a 50 lux, but am waiting until the 10th of may to see what transpires. Â I have never ordered a new leica lens, and wonder what happens if a lens is updated during the waiting period - I assume that I would receive the new model, but would I have to make up the shortfall if the price was increased? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted April 29, 2012 Share #10 Â Posted April 29, 2012 It won't be replaced this year. Â Just my guess. Â But it won't be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 29, 2012 Share #11  Posted April 29, 2012 I am in a position to order a 50 lux, but am waiting until the 10th of may to see what transpires. I have never ordered a new leica lens, and wonder what happens if a lens is updated during the waiting period - I assume that I would receive the new model, but would I have to make up the shortfall if the price was increased?  If an ordered lens increases in price during the waiting period you are normally charged the price at the time of order.Not sure about a total revision on spec. Brian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted April 29, 2012 Share #12  Posted April 29, 2012 If an ordered lens increases in price during the waiting period you are normally charged the price at the time of order.Not sure about a total revision on spec.Brian  They cannot simply charge more for a different product from the one you ordered, it is not legal to do so, and they wouldn't do it.  They have to give you the option of buying the new product at the new price, or cancelling the order. If they still have supplies of the original product, they may offer that at the original price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted April 29, 2012 Share #13 Â Posted April 29, 2012 I would not buy the 50/1.4 asph if you prefer the look of 50/2 and 90/2 pre-asph to that of 35/2 asph and current 21/3.4. The latest 50/1.4 pre-asph has not a "terrible" bokeh at all. I happen to use both asph and pre-asph 50/1.4 and i prefer the latter's bokeh personally. The asph bokeh is smooth at f/1.4 but tends to become harsher than the pre-asph's at slower apertures. Don't buy the pre-asph if you need the sharpest results at f/1.4 though. The asph is the king there and will match perfectly your 35/2 asph and current 21/3.4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jneilt Posted April 29, 2012 Author Share #14 Â Posted April 29, 2012 I would not buy the 50/1.4 asph if you prefer the look of 50/2 and 90/2 pre-asph to that of 35/2 asph and current 21/3.4. The latest 50/1.4 pre-asph has not a "terrible" bokeh at all. I happen to use both asph and pre-asph 50/1.4 and i prefer the latter's bokeh personally. The asph bokeh is smooth at f/1.4 but tends to become harsher than the pre-asph's at slower apertures. Don't buy the pre-asph if you need the sharpest results at f/1.4 though. The asph is the king there and will match perfectly your 35/2 asph and current 21/3.4. Â Thank you LCT! Exactly what I was asking about! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted April 29, 2012 Share #15 Â Posted April 29, 2012 50/1.4.....??? Â Pray you get one that is correctly adjusted ....... Â They are a real bu**er wide open if not precisely calibrated. Â There are plenty of threads citing focussing issues and I have had 2 that needed adjustment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipus Posted April 30, 2012 Share #16 Â Posted April 30, 2012 is the bokah on the v3 e46 that terrible? Any other differences I should know about? Â This shot was taken with the 50/1.4 pre-asph LTM wide open. Â Personally however I prefer my asph's bokeh. Â I don't think there's a calibration problem on my asph. But I shoot film so perhaps it doesn't show even if there is one? Â The asph is an amazing lens. I am very happy that I bought one and almost don't use the pre-asph any longer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipus Posted April 30, 2012 Share #17 Â Posted April 30, 2012 Try to get one - good luck! Some have been waiting for months... Â One just popped up at Leicashop in Vienna. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveYork Posted May 1, 2012 Share #18 Â Posted May 1, 2012 It's a big lens for that focal length in a rangefinder system. I've had one since they came out in '05, but I use a Summicron much more. I don't find I often need the extra stop of speed, and f/2 gives me enough creative control over dof. If I shot more color, maybe I would feel different. Â I purchased the lens when I convinced myself it would be the 'go to' lens. One I used lots, and lots of times. Since then I've purchased more cameras and more lenses (most old stuff). And I've come to the conclusion over the years that the pictures taken with the old stuff I like just as much as those taken with newer stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Michel Posted May 1, 2012 Share #19  Posted May 1, 2012 Buy a 'lux – and sell the 'cron. That lens has spoiled many a good shot for me with its sensitivity to various stray light phenomena, both classical all-over flare and strange flare patches in the image. I want to be able to trust my equipment. The old man from the Age of the 5cm Elmar  Hi, That maybe so -- I never owned any 'Lux lenses to be able to offer an opinion on the 'luxes, but I breathed an enormous breath of relief when I put on my 1962 35 'cron (with goggles) and 1965 50 'cron on my M9. I was prepared to replace them with new lenses, but Ii find that there is no need to do so. I am quite sure that I would be very happy with newer lenses, but after more than more than four decades of using the same lenses I am getting to know what they can help me produce. So my advice would be to keep the 'crons, buy the 'luxes if you have the cash and enjoy using both. My advice to self: think about getting a second body (M9 or its successor) since I like to use two or three lenses without changing them on a body (21VC on an M3; 50 on an M4 and 35 on an M6) -- ultimate laziness! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Negative Posted May 1, 2012 Share #20 Â Posted May 1, 2012 What is there to consider? It's a truly amazing lens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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