tore Posted March 10, 2007 Share #81 Posted March 10, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Sorry, but I only have the German version. Tore Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/17734-visoflex-65mm-m8/?do=findComment&comment=195867'>More sharing options...
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Michael M. Posted March 10, 2007 Share #82 Posted March 10, 2007 Could anyone post up a link, please, to the bellows aspect of the Visoflex system? Chris Dear Chris As it will touch laws I can't copy and upload some pages from the excellent literature available. I'm using mostly (also very detailed in area of Visoflex and accessories for): Leica Collectors Guide by Dennis Laney Hove Collectors Books, GB-Hove East Sussex BN3 2GJ (German translation, 2nd edition of 1995) Michael Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrism Posted March 10, 2007 Share #83 Posted March 10, 2007 Thank you both. I have just discovered the Bellows I doesn't mate to the Visoflex III the expensive way. Now I have to get a BellowsII. I couldn't see any way to use the 16598 between the Bellows I and a Summicron 90 - the lens end of the bellows has a thread that is too small for the 16598. Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankg Posted March 10, 2007 Author Share #84 Posted March 10, 2007 Article on Universal focusing bellows: Universal Focusing Bellows Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted March 10, 2007 Share #85 Posted March 10, 2007 Another contribution to the Bellows saga... from '61 english catalog Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/17734-visoflex-65mm-m8/?do=findComment&comment=196035'>More sharing options...
hankg Posted March 10, 2007 Author Share #86 Posted March 10, 2007 Just obtained an english brochure along with a LN Viso III. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/17734-visoflex-65mm-m8/?do=findComment&comment=196062'>More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted March 12, 2007 Share #87 Posted March 12, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi guys my Visoflex III is here and it looks great but I can't seem to use the right angle viewfinder . The body gets in the way. My only choice seems to be a vertical finder which I can't find one. Now I noticeed some of you are able to use the right angle finder . Am I doing something wrong here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted March 12, 2007 Share #88 Posted March 12, 2007 Do I buy this instead Leica Visoflex RIGHT ANGLE FINDER 4X (VISO III) 16499 (NO STEP) Or what model number for theVertical which I may need because of flash Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/17734-visoflex-65mm-m8/?do=findComment&comment=197826'>More sharing options...
carstenw Posted March 12, 2007 Share #89 Posted March 12, 2007 That is the one I have, Guy. It has 4x magnification, whereas the vertical loupe has 5x. I think the angle is more of an issue than magnification, or as you say, the flash. The code is 16461. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael M. Posted March 12, 2007 Share #90 Posted March 12, 2007 Hi As of those many Visoflex versions it's not that easy to select right stuff by one shot My general configuration (fine on M8): 1.) Visoflex III (# 16497) 2.) Angle magnifier 4X90° (# 16499) no step 3.) Bellows II (# 16556) 4.) Adapter for 3,5/65, 2,8/90, 4/90 heads (# 16558Z) 5.) Adaptor to fit actual Leica Lenses to Bellows II for Makro purpose only - no inf. (# 16596G ) Also proven options: - instead bellows II use also focusing adaptor 16464 for 3,5/65 Elmar direct to Viso III - no bellows needed for inf. ... 1:3 - Simple magnifier 5x0° OTVXO (# 16461) also applicable ... lot of different adapterrings - mostly used to fit older lensheads to Viso and/or bellows (see also literature) General I'm still looking for adapter cable to line the SF 24D to the M8 when Viso/ magnifier 16499 is equipped ( only very small gap between flashshoe and Viso's right way round viewfinder. Anybody any idea??? Michael Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankg Posted March 12, 2007 Author Share #91 Posted March 12, 2007 Guy, I just mounted my Viso III with 90 degree finder on the M8 no problem. The number for the Viso III with 90 degree finder is 16498, Viso III without finder 16497. Maybe you got a Viso II? In any case you will need the 5x magnifier for strobes, there is no clearence for a hot shoe to pc adapter. Here are some used listings for OTVXO: Collect Camera $130. Peter Walnes (UK) £55 Foto Hobby (price on this one is astronomical) Good luck. I'm missing one adapter, which is on it's way and then on to testing! Also Leicashop in Austria has a beautiful black 65 with adapter. If you could get them to sell it without the Viso II the price should be more or less in line with current retail: 65mm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lars_bergquist Posted March 12, 2007 Share #92 Posted March 12, 2007 Guy, if the bottom of the prism finder doesn't agree with the top of your M8, M7 or M6 TTL, then you have got the finder introduced for the Viso II palmed off on you. This is more elegant than the higher III finder and it has dioptric adjustment on the eyepiece, but it can be used only on the classical low profile bodies. In all other respects, both prism finders and the 'simple magnifier' (which is nice to have on a copystand or for low level plant photography) are totally cross-compatible. I must say however that the later III finder is optically superior. --Similarly, the V II works just fine on the M8, but you have to use the V III finder or the 'smokestack' with it. The only remaining trick is to set such a gap between the release arm bolt and the camera release that the Viso has time to get the mirror out of the way, and the camera enough time for an unobstructed determination of auto exposure ... but not much more. This of course is infinitely less tricky now than with a film M. The old man from the Age of the No Return Mirror Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted March 12, 2007 Share #93 Posted March 12, 2007 It looks like I may have gotten the version II setup. Bummer but i did order that vertical viewfinder , thanks Hank for pointing that out. The vertical will work better for the strobes. I did get that one adpter on e-bay and will look around for the 65mm . I may e-mail them on just the 65mm that link did not work but i can find it. I did play with it last night a little without the finder and it works great even with the 75 lux. I did adjust the shooting pin so the mirror goes up first than the shutter , what a cool trick that is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
telewatt Posted March 12, 2007 Share #94 Posted March 12, 2007 Yes, the Elmar 65mm is a lovely lens!...I use it with the Adapter M to R on my R8/9 + DMR... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! R8 + Elmar 65mm + 2x extension tubes "16471" Regards, Jan Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! R8 + Elmar 65mm + 2x extension tubes "16471" Regards, Jan ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/17734-visoflex-65mm-m8/?do=findComment&comment=198354'>More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted March 12, 2007 Share #95 Posted March 12, 2007 Nice shot . Btw the gentleman I bought my adapter from apparently has other stuff that he is selling and sent me this e-mail, may want to contact him. I told him I would post this Hi Guy, I just mail your package USPS this morning, I am sorry for being a couple days late but I was called out of town mid-week on urgent buisness, thank you for your buisness and I found one more of the same adapter's if you have a need for it or have a friend that need's one please let me know as I bought quite a bit of Leica equipment from a camera store that went out of buisness. Best regards, ktnphoto Robert e-mail photobob1@sbcglobal.net Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted March 13, 2007 Share #96 Posted March 13, 2007 I was testing out the macro capabilities of my various lenses on the M8 with a Visoflex III today, and found out that some lenses (CV15, 35 Cron Asph) bump against the mirror. I had not heard of this before, so I thought I would report it here. You have to pick your lenses carefully, at least for use directly on the Visoflex. Here are the results with my 135/2.8 I and 50 Lux Asph, both focused somewhere in the middle of the range and shot at f/16. I also shot the 50 at f/11 and f/8 and could see mild loss of sharpness due to diffraction at f/16, but it was gone at f/11, which is probably the optimal aperture for resolution on the M8. Another gotcha: you see full frame in the Visoflex, which of course has no idea that you have a crop sensor, so do some test shots for framing before making the final shots. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/17734-visoflex-65mm-m8/?do=findComment&comment=199902'>More sharing options...
carstenw Posted March 13, 2007 Share #97 Posted March 13, 2007 adaptor "22228" ?Operating distance (Viso III + 50/1,4) will shrink down to 9 ...10 cm distance object > frontglas. (Optics focused at infinity) But anyhow: much better optics available for macro at "R"-system !!! If you still own a Apo-Macro-Elmarit 2,8/100 ... forget for anything else ... look for the Adaptor! And still I'm keen to learn about results on the other side by Apo-Telyt's modulesystem (280...800mm and Apo-extender) on M8 Michael Michael, do you know what magnification factor (Abbildungsmaßstab) I would get with M8, Visoflex III, adapter and R Apo-100/2.8 Macro? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankg Posted March 21, 2007 Author Share #98 Posted March 21, 2007 I contacted Brightscreen about a custom brightscreen with 1.33 crops inscribed for the Viso: the screen would be $ 240 and installation in the Visoflex would be $ 40 (strongly recommend we install). Production time for this item is currently estimated at 3 to 4 weeks I used one of these screens in a Rollei TLR and they beat anything I've used including the Hassy Acute-Matte and the competing 'bright' screens. Really great product. Isn't it amazing how many ways one can find to spend money on the 'budget' solution Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody Campbell Posted March 21, 2007 Share #99 Posted March 21, 2007 I contacted Brightscreen about a custom brightscreen with 1.33 crops inscribed for the Viso: I used one of these screens in a Rollei TLR and they beat anything I've used including the Hassy Acute-Matte and the competing 'bright' screens. Really great product. Isn't it amazing how many ways one can find to spend money on the 'budget' solution Very cool - do they recommend the version with the microprism spot? BTW the 90mm macro-elmar f4 mounts directly on the viso III and gives 2 close-up ranges depending on whether it's collapsed or extended. (I find this to be a terrific all-purpose long lens.) Here's an image in the collapsed state ISO 2500 f5.6 hand-held at 1/90. It's a center crop of about 30% of the image. I don't ordinarily do micro (or color for that matter), but this is sort of fun. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/17734-visoflex-65mm-m8/?do=findComment&comment=207400'>More sharing options...
hankg Posted March 21, 2007 Author Share #100 Posted March 21, 2007 Since this is a macro/tele rig I'd go for a plain matte screen. I'm usually focusing on something not in the center. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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