ian748s Posted March 1, 2007 Share #1 Posted March 1, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) My introduction to Leica M is progressing nicely though I can not yet say that I have fully grasped the 'rangefinder' way nor street photography but then I've only had the M6 for a couple of weeks. I've seen enough to confirm my impending purchase of an M8 but before doing so I want to acquire several more lenses which I will do s/h if I can. Here is my shortlist: 16-21mm Tri-Elmar 35mm chron or lux 50mm noctilux 75mm cron or lux or 90mm cron Apart of the lens coding, any issues with any of these lenses? I also have already a 50mm Elmar collapsible lens. Will that be OK with the M8? Thanks in anticipation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Shootist Posted March 1, 2007 Share #2 Posted March 1, 2007 All those lenses in your first list are fine. With 50 Elmar collapsible there are conflicting statements on this forum. The older ones for sure should "NOT" BE COLLAPSED as they protrude to far inside the body and could damage something. But you can still use it. The "NEW" ones some say are fine and can be collapsed and other say they can't. If you are looking for a small short lens then try a Leica Summicron-C 40mm f/2 which was made for the Leica CL and works just great on either film M's or the M8. It is actually shorter the the 50 Elmar when collapsed and it is one stop faster and to top it off you can get one in very good shape for about $400 or less. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggetzin Posted March 5, 2007 Share #3 Posted March 5, 2007 It is very easy to accidentally collapse the new 50 elmar on the M8. I discovered the caution after installing and it moved down while handling several times. I have wondered if the new 50 does not cause damage. I avoid it religiously now, but do not notice any damage or any affect to images taken. Is it possible there is damage I have not noticed? Gary Getzin, frightened new M8 owner. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootist Posted March 5, 2007 Share #4 Posted March 5, 2007 Page 86 of the manual says. Important Cannot be used and then lists which lenses can't be used. Second item top of column 2. • Can be used, but risks damaging the camera Lenses with retractable tubes can only be used with their tubes extended, i.e. their tubes must never be retracted into the LEICA M8. This is not the case with the current Macro-Elmar-M 90mm f/4, whose tube does not protrude into the camera body even when retracted. It can therefore be used without any restrictions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggetzin Posted March 5, 2007 Share #5 Posted March 5, 2007 Ed: I saw that and I take seriously the admonition not to collapse. I am wondering due to the precautions, if the lens has inadverently been collapsed, if there definitely has to be damage. There appears to be none with my M8, but what do I know? I have asked the question of tech experts and get no answer. It seems to be any damage would be evident. There are some reports that the new 50 elmar was adjusted. Just by the naked eye, it looks like it might fit. Again, I am not going to test it. I am awaiting my tri elmar. Gary Getzin Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted March 5, 2007 Share #6 Posted March 5, 2007 ...With 50 Elmar collapsible there are conflicting statements on this forum. The older ones for sure should "NOT" BE COLLAPSED as they protrude to far inside the body and could damage something. But you can still use it.The "NEW" ones some say are fine and can be collapsed and other say they can't. If you are looking for a small short lens then try a Leica Summicron-C 40mm f/2 which was made for the Leica CL and works just great on either film M's or the M8... I don't know how it works with the M8 but the older Elmar (right) protrudes less far actually. About the Summicron 40/2, did you find an IR-cut filter for it and how do you manage to get it coded? Or perhaps it does not need any coding? Thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 5, 2007 Share #7 Posted March 5, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) It is very easy to accidentally collapse the new 50 elmar on the M8. I discoveredthe caution after installing and it moved down while handling several times. I have wondered if the new 50 does not cause damage. I avoid it religiously now, but do not notice any damage or any affect to images taken. Is it possible there is damage I have not noticed? Gary Getzin, frightened new M8 owner. I have used the new(est?- got it a month ago new) 50 Elmar-M on two M8 bodies, even accidentally tripping the shutter with it once or twice collapsed, and there is no damage whatever. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 5, 2007 Share #8 Posted March 5, 2007 I don't know how it works with the M8 but the older Elmar (right) protrudes less far actually.About the Summicron 40/2, did you find an IR-cut filter for it and how do you manage to get it coded? Or perhaps it does not need any coding? Thanks. The very newest one looks different from your new one, the black ring on the back is more rounded. I'll have a compare with my old one when I come home. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootist Posted March 5, 2007 Share #9 Posted March 5, 2007 I don't know how it works with the M8 but the older Elmar (right) protrudes less far actually.About the Summicron 40/2, did you find an IR-cut filter for it and how do you manage to get it coded? Or perhaps it does not need any coding? Thanks. No I haven't found a cut filter for it. I'm not really sure what size the filter threads are and they are recessed and outside the actual part that holds the front lens element and where the Leica lettering is. I 39mm Leica UVa filter starts to screw on but then is stopped by the front of the lens hitting the glass of the filter. Also the aperture ring is just outside the threaded part and protrudes above it slightly. I suspect these C lenses took special filters and I won't find a IR cut filter for it. No it can not be coded, or at least there is no code for it. You may be able to code it as a 50mm or a 35mm. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted March 5, 2007 Share #10 Posted March 5, 2007 The Summicron-C 40/2 uses series 5 filters. If IR filters of that size are not available, and given that Leica do not code the lens, the latter looks hardly compatible with the M8 so far, at least for color photography. But perhaps there is no cyan shift with the 40/2... Any idea about that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 5, 2007 Share #11 Posted March 5, 2007 The Summicron-C 40/2 uses series 5 filters.If IR filters of that size are not available, and given that Leica do not code the lens, the latter looks hardly compatible with the M8 so far, at least for color photography. But perhaps there is no cyan shift with the 40/2... Any idea about that? Filters are available. Both B&W and Heliopan supply series-type filter mounts. And all special sizes too, like 41 mm or 40,5 mm etc.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted March 5, 2007 Share #12 Posted March 5, 2007 Would be interesting to check if there is some cyan shift with those IR filters then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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