frogfish Posted February 26, 2012 Share #1 Posted February 26, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hello, I am looking for a 35mm lens for my M9. So far I have used the Voigtländer 35/1.4 and am generally very pleased with the results. (As long as you are able to deal with the focus shift). The bokeh is OK but not great. I started to change my style and shoot now a lot against the sun and overexpose the image to get a dreamy look. The problem I have now is that the Voigtländer is unusable because it produces very distinct orange flare bows. Very nice and artistic in some shoots but not in all of them if you are photographing series. Which lens to get if you are looking for low flare and nice bokeh. I am willing to bite the apple and buy the new summilux asph, but maybe there are better options? (Voigtländer 1.2, Leica pre asph. etc?) Any help will be much appreciated. Thank you and good shooting, heiko Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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01af Posted February 27, 2012 Share #2 Posted February 27, 2012 Summarit-M 35 mm 1:2.5. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prosophos Posted February 27, 2012 Share #3 Posted February 27, 2012 Leica 35mm Summarit (f/2.5). The most flare-resistant lens I've ever used, with beautifully smooooth bokeh. Sample images: Union Station. “Love is better than anger…” The officer. After the bath. L – A portrait. Peter. P r o s o p h o s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted February 27, 2012 Share #4 Posted February 27, 2012 Depends on what you mean by nice bokeh but i would choose the Summarit 35/2.5 as well or the Biogon 35/2.8. I have no experience with the later though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogfish Posted February 27, 2012 Author Share #5 Posted February 27, 2012 Thank you for your input. But I need 1.4 for subject isolation. Sorry that I did not make that clear from the beginning. I find the step from 1.4 to 2 quite distinct, whereas between 1.2 and 1.4 barely noticeable. I know, it´s probably ask a lot from a lens, but I am looking for the best compromise. I do not care for sharpness or distorsion for example. heiko Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted February 27, 2012 Share #6 Posted February 27, 2012 Aside from the new Summilux, the new CV 35/1.2 looks promising if sharpness at fast apertures is not what you're looking for. Has less flare than the CV 35/1.4 SC and smother bokeh than the CV 35/1.4 MC seemingly but i have no experience with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWC Doppel Posted February 27, 2012 Share #7 Posted February 27, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) I would be interested in opinions of the 11870 V11 35mm Summilux, these look very interesting from a size perspective, understand the contrast is a little low at 1.4 but....? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted February 27, 2012 Share #8 Posted February 27, 2012 The Summilux 11870 is soft at f/1.4 with great character due to its real "glow" i.e. halos around highlights. At f/2 it is sharper in the center but remains soft on edges and corners. Plenty sharp at f/2.8 and on in the center, at f/4 and on on edges and corners. Tiny lens compared to modern monsters, series VII filters, smooth bokeh but lot of flare. Better choose a late copy with modern multicoating, but it is a flare prone lens anyway. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/173627-35-for-bokeh-and-no-flare/?do=findComment&comment=1938547'>More sharing options...
Mauribix Posted February 28, 2012 Share #9 Posted February 28, 2012 Flare and coma is not peculiar of super fast 35mm (i.e. f:1.4) lenses. Actually I think the OP is putting on the same level Flare and Ghost Image produced by raylight reflections. Is it right? I do love to shoot against the sun too, and for this reason, I would use just one lens: the Summicron 35 ASPH. The flat front element will avoid most of those bows you typically get when shooting against the sun (ghost), and flare suppression is absolutely the best you can get in a 35mm FOV for RF cameras. I do have a summilux 35 ASPH too(I had the FLE version too which is supposed to be better in flare resistance), and it is not in the same league of the 35cron ASPH for that. That's the price you have to pay for the extra stop. The Zeiss ZM biogon, is great (both the 2.8 and 2.0) for flare suppression, probably better then the Leica, BUT the front element will give you evident bows in many situations. I will attach some samples if I can find them in my archive. Last but not least, I've heard many many good things about Voigtlander Nokton 35 f:1.2 Version II's flare resistance (and suppression of ghost images). I used to have a Voigtlander Nokton 35 1.2 version I, and flare was just a pain with that lens. Seems like the concentrated R&D on that, if reports are reliable. YMMV Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Roberts Posted February 28, 2012 Share #10 Posted February 28, 2012 I quite like the 35 Summilux ASPH. I have the non FLE version, which suits me just fine. I shoot a lot against the light and I find it has just the right amount of predictable flare and overall great flare resistance too. The Summicron may be less flare prone ultimately, but I see no reason whatsoever to switch and I'd rather have the extra stop. Oh--it's also just a fabulous fast 35mm lens too If I were buying today I'd look at the FLE version. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted February 28, 2012 Share #11 Posted February 28, 2012 Interesting Maurizio thanks for sharing. The OP's after an f/1.4 lens but i should have mentioned the Summicron 35 asph as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted February 28, 2012 Share #12 Posted February 28, 2012 I quite like the 35 Summilux ASPH. I have the non FLE version, which suits me just fine... So you have no significant focus shift problems with it i guess. Do you shoot more often at fast apertures? Is it a late sample? Just curious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogfish Posted February 28, 2012 Author Share #13 Posted February 28, 2012 Here just some pictures to show what bothers me. It´s in about 90% of the pictures I shot that day. The Voigtländer 1.2 may be the best option, but the size... I hate my V. 1.1 on my little camera. heiko Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/173627-35-for-bokeh-and-no-flare/?do=findComment&comment=1940219'>More sharing options...
01af Posted February 28, 2012 Share #14 Posted February 28, 2012 Here just some pictures to show what bothers me. Did you use a hood on the lens? These pictures look like the hood was too short, or no hood at all. A better hood should be easier (and way cheaper) to get than another lens. Maybe you should really try the Summarit-M 35 mm 1:2.5—I think you're over-rating a super-wide aperture for your image composition. The current Summilux-M 35 mm 1:1.4 Asph also is fairly flare-resistant, almost as good as the Summarit in this respect but not quite ... but then, I never tried shooting it right into the sun at full aperture but at, say, f/4 or f/5.6. The Summicron-M 35 mm 1:2 Asph is notorious for flare at the wider apertures (f/2 - f/2.8) ... but it would produce soft veiling glares rather than these sharp-edged arcs of light. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogfish Posted February 28, 2012 Author Share #15 Posted February 28, 2012 of course with the hood, still this outcome. I think, at least for me, the wide aperture is mandatory giving this kind of background, with, let´s say 2.5 the trees or the house would disturb the picture much more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted February 28, 2012 Share #16 Posted February 28, 2012 ... the Summicron-M 35 mm 1:2 Asph is notorious for flare at the wider apertures (f/2 - f/2.8) ... Are you sure you don't mistake it with the previous v4? The 35/2 asph is one of the least flare prone 35 i've used with the Summarit and the R Summicron. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogfish Posted November 8, 2012 Author Share #17 Posted November 8, 2012 little update: moved to the 35 Summilux FLE, great lens, an no flare. wanna see some pics? shooting in Bali cheers, heiko Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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