lct Posted February 27, 2007 Share #41 Posted February 27, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) I don't see any magenta here. Are you sure your monitor is OK? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted February 27, 2007 Posted February 27, 2007 Hi lct, Take a look here 50/1.4 asph vs pre-asph - one more 50 thread. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
colorflow Posted February 28, 2007 Share #42 Posted February 28, 2007 It does render very nicely. You should see the MTF charts though. What a mess wide open Oh yes Carsten, I have seen the MTFs, but photos don't live by MTF alone... Alan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colorflow Posted February 28, 2007 Share #43 Posted February 28, 2007 My apologies to everyone. I was looking up MTF data on my pre-ASPH Lux 50 again, and re-discovered that mine is a version 2, not version 1 as I stated when I posted the photos earlier in this thread. So I guess it has decent MTFs after all. Alan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted February 28, 2007 Share #44 Posted February 28, 2007 ...No portraits? Nothing i may show on the net sorry. Now there is no mystery IMHO. If you want to display the wrinkles of your subjects the asph is better of course, but if you want to shoot your mother in law and keep your wife, the pre-asph is mandatory! Seriously, the pre-asph (last version) is my favourite portrait lens with the R-D1 (75mm FoV) but it's just me of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joern Posted February 28, 2007 Share #45 Posted February 28, 2007 ...but if you want to shoot your mother in law and keep your wife, the pre-asph is mandatory! LOL LCT, Thanks for the advice ;-) I am already married and have the pre asph 50. So i am qualified to buy the asph now? BTW, i realy like the pre asph, too. jørn Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted February 28, 2007 Share #46 Posted February 28, 2007 I don't see any magenta here.Are you sure your monitor is OK? Sure I am sure. Look at your reflection in the first picture. The sweater looks purple around the edges. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted February 28, 2007 Share #47 Posted February 28, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) You mean this? Possibly a tungsten light reflection i don't know but i wore a 100% cotton marine blue sweater... Ever seen IRs with that? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/17268-5014-asph-vs-pre-asph-one-more-50-thread/?do=findComment&comment=185297'>More sharing options...
carstenw Posted February 28, 2007 Share #48 Posted February 28, 2007 Well, that isn't marine blue. The R-D1 is also known to be somewhat IR sensitive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted February 28, 2007 Share #49 Posted February 28, 2007 ...The R-D1 is also known to be somewhat IR sensitive. Not by me honestly. I am the first R-D1 purchaser in Europe, officially, and i haven't got more than 3 or 4 IR problems in 2+ years with this camera. Its perhaps that anybody wear 'Lacoste' sweaters around me... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrid Posted February 28, 2007 Share #50 Posted February 28, 2007 Not by me honestly. I am the first R-D1 purchaser in Europe, officially, and i haven't got more than 3 or 4 IR problems in 2+ years with this camera. Its perhaps that anybody wear 'Lacoste' sweaters around me... The bigger the chip, the more apparent the IR issue becomes, because you have to use a thinner IR filter. With a x1.5 chip the rays exiting the rear element strike the sensor at a reasonably perpendicular angle. As the chip gets bigger and a larger area of coverage is needed the rays traveling to edges of the chip come in at a more shallow angle. Now you have to decrease the thickness of the IR filter, so you don't experience diffraction as the light travels through the filter, which would reduce sharpness. It's a give and take situation, unless Leica can figure out a way to defy the laws of physics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankg Posted September 10, 2007 Share #51 Posted September 10, 2007 I was out with the family in Miami Beach over the weekend. All shots 50/1.4 preASPH -street photos were at f11 -f16, cafe about f2.8, my daughter drawing at the Miami Art Museum f1.4. One of my favorite walking around rigs was the R 60 macro mounted on the compact R6. The 50 acts a lot like that 60 on the M8. Gives a 'normal' field of view and your are not right in your subjects face. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/17268-5014-asph-vs-pre-asph-one-more-50-thread/?do=findComment&comment=350394'>More sharing options...
Daniel Ortego Posted March 19, 2008 Share #52 Posted March 19, 2008 The current Summilux is awfully sharp, AND has nice bokeh -- remember, these are different things. Sharpness is at and around the plane of focus, bokeh is how unsharp detail is rendered. When people say that the Summilux ASPH or other current Leica M lenses has unplesant bokeh (which is simply not true) they are actually saying that they do not like sharp lenses ... The previous 50 mm Summilux (1962--1964!) has nice bokeh too, but is a bit softer especially off axis at large apertures. It delivers maximum definition at about f:8, whilst the ASPH is so sharp even at full aperture that you can shave with it. But make no mistake about it, the oldtimer is a fine optic and a real 'user lens' if you know its limitations. Both versions handle flare and reflexes better than a 50 mm Summicron; the ASPH is really outstanding in this department. The 'design focal length' of Leica 50 mm lenses has always been closer to 51.5--52 mm (it is always allowed to vary a couple of tenths plus or minus, because no-tolerance manufacturing is impossible), so the equivalent on an M8 is really close to 69 mm. This is why so many people like it as a 'people lens'. The old man from the Age of Berek Remarkably accurate and well-written explanation. Regards, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppyman Posted March 20, 2008 Share #53 Posted March 20, 2008 Hi. My two cents. I have the 50 asph. I have used it on M3, M6, M7 and now M8. previously my fifties were the Elmar M 2.8 50, then the current Summicron . No contest. The asph. is sharp-sharp as the other M's were too, Against the light the asph. presents great clarity and veiling glare is completely absent. I have never seen it flare personally. Smooth Bo-ke might be described as under correction masking resolution! I know that is a contentious view. On the M8 it is simply stunning. If you can fund it, buy it. One BW from film (Neopan 400), one casual portrait at 320 ISO trying out the M8. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/17268-5014-asph-vs-pre-asph-one-more-50-thread/?do=findComment&comment=515747'>More sharing options...
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