StephenPatterson Posted February 4, 2012 Share #21  Posted February 4, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) I'll do personal street photography workshops for £1000 per day. PM me. Some might say that street photography is just about getting out there with your camera, mingling and being discreet, rather not what would be achieved through a group workshop!  I wonder which workshop HCB went on?  Having a bad day James? Car run over your dog?  Let me guess, the last "workshop" you attended was "Street Shopping 101" last August. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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charlesphoto99 Posted February 4, 2012 Share #22 Â Posted February 4, 2012 All depends what you are after. If you just want to hang out with other Leica gearheads and swap lenses and shoot a few tourist sites and get a pat on the back then the Leica/Huff/etc type workshops are fine for you. These are great for learning a few basics if you don't have those already. Â But if you want to get your butt kicked and really learn how to create and edit real work, then the workshops by the likes of David Alan Harvey, or the Turnleys, or other well known photo journalists are the way to go. But these are intense, and many have been known to break down and cry, but it's also the way to truly break through. Really depends on what your long term goal as a photographer is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenPatterson Posted February 4, 2012 Share #23 Â Posted February 4, 2012 All depends what you are after. If you just want to hang out with other Leica gearheads and swap lenses and shoot a few tourist sites and get a pat on the back then the Leica/Huff/etc type workshops are fine for you. These are great for learning a few basics if you don't have those already. Â Sorry, but I strongly disagree. The one-on-one interaction I received from Craig Semetko, Tom Smith and Ebi Kuntz at the Leica Akademie workshop was far from a "pat on the back". I was basically challenged to set the bar higher, and the critique was brutally honest. It was only on day 3 that I was able to turn in a few images that didn't completely suck in the eyes of my instructors. Â There are many different workshops around the world. Overgaard, Eric Kim, Steve Huff, Leica Akademie, etc. It's unfair to dismiss any, as not everyone wants to be a professional street or documentary photographer. For many just the chance to be around other creative people and gain a few pointers is enough. Â I've never attended a David Allen Harvey or The Turnleys workshop so I cannot comment. Have you attended a Leica Akademie or Steve Huff workshop? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKbRS Posted February 4, 2012 Author Share #24  Posted February 4, 2012 All depends what you are after. If you just want to hang out with other Leica gearheads and swap lenses and shoot a few tourist sites and get a pat on the back then the Leica/Huff/etc type workshops are fine for you. These are great for learning a few basics if you don't have those already. But if you want to get your butt kicked and really learn how to create and edit real work, then the workshops by the likes of David Alan Harvey, or the Turnleys, or other well known photo journalists are the way to go. But these are intense, and many have been known to break down and cry, but it's also the way to truly break through. Really depends on what your long term goal as a photographer is.  I'm not interested in the hanging-out experience; t's the butt-kicking that I am after. And thankfully, this thread has provided some good tips! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vdb Posted February 4, 2012 Share #25 Â Posted February 4, 2012 I've done workshops with both David and Peter turnley as well as Bruce Gilden. All week long workshops. Intense intense intense. No talk of gear, pp etc. heavy critique. Heavy on editing. And heavy on story telling. All depends what you want and how open u are to seeing something new. Most of all u will learn about yourself. All about self exploration. Not about how to use a camera. These are all very psychological experiences and not for everybody. The lessons learned nay not be apparent for months. And yes, the group editing session are a huge part of the experience. You have to be willing to talk about yourself. Emotionally. And so you will form very close relationships with others. I have made life long relationships during these workshops. No price in that. Invaluable. There is nothing like spending time orbiting the greats in this field. You will absorb so much at an unconscious level. Anyone interested in more details PM me. Love to talk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vdb Posted February 4, 2012 Share #26 Â Posted February 4, 2012 Call me Kevin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted February 4, 2012 Share #27  Posted February 4, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Having a bad day James? Car run over your dog? Let me guess, the last "workshop" you attended was "Street Shopping 101" last August.  Having a great day thanks, England won the rugby and my guy Chris Robshaw was Captain!  I did attend a street photography seminar at the Tate a few years ago, run by some of the 'in public' photographers, that was really interesting, studying the work of some famous street photographers, learning that 'street' is a very broad church, and being tasked with our own projects (which we had to do solo, between class sessions).  I just think the idea of a group workshop out in the field, is the wrong approach for street photography, and the best start is to get out there and just give it a try. If you need the 'safety' of a group then street really isn't for you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vdb Posted February 4, 2012 Share #28 Â Posted February 4, 2012 James, never been in a workshop where the group goes out and shoots together. Not a street or doc workshop anyway. The benefits of the group come with the intense editing sessions. Huge benefit it is. Especially when everyone brings their true selves to the table. Can be a wonderfully intimate experience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlesphoto99 Posted February 5, 2012 Share #29  Posted February 5, 2012 Sorry, but I strongly disagree. The one-on-one interaction I received from Craig Semetko, Tom Smith and Ebi Kuntz at the Leica Akademie workshop was far from a "pat on the back". I was basically challenged to set the bar higher, and the critique was brutally honest. It was only on day 3 that I was able to turn in a few images that didn't completely suck in the eyes of my instructors. There are many different workshops around the world. Overgaard, Eric Kim, Steve Huff, Leica Akademie, etc. It's unfair to dismiss any, as not everyone wants to be a professional street or documentary photographer. For many just the chance to be around other creative people and gain a few pointers is enough.  I've never attended a David Allen Harvey or The Turnleys workshop so I cannot comment. Have you attended a Leica Akademie or Steve Huff workshop?  Sorry, I didn't mean to denigrate these style workshops. I actually have given presentations to both Leica Akadamie and Steve Huff workshops and they are run by a fine group of people. But it really is a lot of "look at my toy" and group shoots for fun vs being flung out into the world and coming back with a fully developed story under your belt in a given period of time. Both have their time and place. Sounds like the o.p. is after the hard stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenPatterson Posted February 5, 2012 Share #30 Â Posted February 5, 2012 No worries Charles. I believe there is benefit in attending any class, although as you rightly point out the experience can be vastly different. Yes, there are plenty of "gear heads" who attend the Steve Huff and Leica Akademie workshops, but there are also some very fine photographers who are striving to take their photography to the next level. Hopefully those who are serious enough will be able to avail themselves of attending one of the classes you mentioned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenPatterson Posted February 5, 2012 Share #31 Â Posted February 5, 2012 I just think the idea of a group workshop out in the field, is the wrong approach for street photography, and the best start is to get out there and just give it a try. If you need the 'safety' of a group then street really isn't for you. Â I agree with you 100%. At the workshops that I've attended I make it a point to go off on my own and not follow the herd. Street photography is challenging enough without being in the middle of 20 other photographers. Â Sorry about my "Street Shopping" comment. It was rude and I apologize. Â Cheers, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted February 5, 2012 Share #32 Â Posted February 5, 2012 No worries Stephen, no offence taken. Â To be fair, apart from the workshop I mentioned it's been a long time since I tried one. Agree it's good for meeting other photographers and sharing opinions - as is this forum - and something like lighting or portraiture can work, but a group street session really doesn't work for me, I can imagine it makes the idea of going solo even more daunting! Â But anyone is welcome to take me up on my offer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmazzi Posted February 5, 2012 Share #33  Posted February 5, 2012 Me! Where? In Venice Italy! Mario Mazziol School of Seeing | Photography Workshop and Tour in Venice Italy  Thanks Mario Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messsucherkamera Posted February 5, 2012 Share #34  Posted February 5, 2012 I'm not interested in the hanging-out experience; t's the butt-kicking that I am after. And thankfully, this thread has provided some good tips!  I would highly recommend this workshop, next time it is held: The Magic Moment - A Master Class with Constantine Manos in Rockport, ME | Magnum Events  I attended in 2009 and found it to be an outstanding learning experience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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