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Hey, guys! I'm a proud new owner of a black M8-- fresh off the FedEx truck this morning. As a previous owner of an M4 and M5, I've been lusting after this "digital M" for quite some time now, and I'm happy to finally get on the bandwagon. Anyway, on to my question... I took it out this afternoon for a little test drive with my 50/1.4, and while I've been very happy with the quality of the photos once uploaded onto my computer, the image playback seems to be a little "wonky", for lack of a better word. Whenever I zoom in on an image I'm reviewing, noise appears much more prevalent than it does once uploaded onto my PC, almost as though it's been resampled. Is this just a matter of it being a slightly older camera? Not quite the LCD resolution that I'm used to on my D700? I'd appreciate any insight into whether this is perfectly normal, or possibly an issue with my camera. Thanks in advance!

 

I also attached the first photo I took with my M8, of a cement mixer in the neighbor's yard. It's a nothing shot, but I think it's pretty demonstrative of just how sharp the 50/1.4 Summilux is.

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What you see on the LCD is a 'bad' preview of the JPG file as converted by the camera.

You shoot in RAW and see a nice clean capture on your computer...

 

The D700 is much better at making this 'in camera' convertion to JPG also the display is much better.... Very old news...

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Thanks, Erik. I appreciate the quick response, and your putting my mind at ease. I tried to find a thread on this before I created one, but I saw only posts related to longer exposures and higher ISO settings-- not really applicable to my case. Thanks again!

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Two factors contribute: The M8 has limited processing power for a number of reasons I won't rehash here, so the JPG engine is not as sophisticated as some others, and the LCD screen appears not to be available in a higher resolution in this size. If you think the M8 display is insufficient, just wait until you get an M9!;)

 

As a mod I must ask you not to post fotos in the technical forums just for the fun of it. These are reserved for images illustrating the contents of posts.

Other images are meant to go into the photoforums and you are hereby most heartily invited to post there.

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Thanks again for all the information. My concern arose over the fact that this anomaly is not mentioned on any of the reviews I've read (and believe me, I've read "a lot"), nor any of the Google searches I've done. It sure is great to be able to network with people that know their stuff!

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Thanks again for all the information. My concern arose over the fact that this anomaly is not mentioned on any of the reviews I've read (and believe me, I've read "a lot"), nor any of the Google searches I've done. It sure is great to be able to network with people that know their stuff!

 

Don't Forget!

Those reviews you read mostly date back to the original release of the M8.

The LCD playback Leica ended up implementing wasn't even on the leading edge of that period, but it was functional and not that far behind some of the cameras on sale then. These days It is definitely crap-tastic when compared to the marvels of technology found in cameras. The cpu's are much faster, there is a lot more onboard ram, and the LCD's are wonderfully glorious works to behold.

 

It is one of the non-monetary prices M8 owners pay to play in the digital rangefinder pool.

 

Richard in Michigan.

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Yeah, it's certainly different than I'm used to. Then again, I guess we've been spoiled by our really, really ridiculously high ISOs, and our large, high resolution LCDs. Having shot film, I remember when there was no image playback, and ISO 1000 film (3200 when pushed) was the max, so I guess I shouldn't complain, should I?

 

It's really not much of an issue. The LCD serves its purpose, I suppose-- to view one's composition and exposure (when used in conjunction with the histogram). You simply have to trust that your subject is in sharp, critical focus... just like the "good ol' days", eh? ;)

 

All in all, the M8's files continue to impress me, and the fun factor just can't be beat! I have a feeling my D700's going to be pining for attention.

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I can say my Canon is definitely pining for attention!

I have used the M8 exclusively for months in an intentional effort to make operating it less of a thought process and more of a muscle memory thing.

 

Yeah, it's certainly different than I'm used to. Then again, I guess we've been spoiled by our really, really ridiculously high ISOs, and our large, high resolution LCDs. Having shot film, I remember when there was no image playback, and ISO 1000 film (3200 when pushed) was the max, so I guess I shouldn't complain, should I?

 

It's really not much of an issue. The LCD serves its purpose, I suppose-- to view one's composition and exposure (when used in conjunction with the histogram). You simply have to trust that your subject is in sharp, critical focus... just like the "good ol' days", eh? ;)

 

All in all, the M8's files continue to impress me, and the fun factor just can't be beat! I have a feeling my D700's going to be pining for attention.

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I can't see any sense in shooting in anything "but" RAW; however, I'm one of those that takes more time than he should in ACR. Batch processing is something I simply can't bring myself to do... I'm too much of a control freak, and like to micro-manage my photos. I wish that weren't the case-- I spend way too much time in front of the computer. My eyes are starting to resemble large raisins.

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