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Puzzling Leica 35 Summicron copy - Which type is it?


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Hello all,

 

I've done quite an extensive research on the different types of 35mm f2 summicron types, however this particular one has baffled me. The serial number is #2329069, according to Leica wiki (http://test.www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/index.php/Summicron_(I)_f%3D_3.5_cm_1:2), this one should be a version I summicron. However, the exterior design of this lens resembles that of type II summicron.

 

Pictures of the lens below:

http://img.iwascoding.com/2/2011/12/11/70/E866A960409F4402AF2847D8B250420F.jpg

 

http://img.iwascoding.com/2/2011/12/11/44/7ABFEE6C15F546B29978D186F69BC45F.jpg

 

http://img.iwascoding.com/2/2011/12/11/E4/FBD7993FBCC542098D7B06EDD36AF5B5.jpg

 

Leica wiki website also shows that serial number from 2316001, they belong to type II summicrons as shown here: http://test.www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/index.php/35mm_f/2_Summicron_II

 

As such, i'm really curious as to whether this lens is the 6-element or 8-element one without dismantling the lens to find out the number of groups/elements. I noticed this one has a tab on the aperture ring, so it seems more towards a type II summicron. Are any experts able to provide any insights? Thanks! :)

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Welcome to the forum :)

The Summicron 35/2 # 11309 fist type (1969-1971) has an aperture tab and its last serial number is 2,483,503 AFAIK.

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As always - Leica assigned (may still do so) serial numbers for lens types (focal length/aperture - but NOT a specific "version") in blocks of roughly 1,000-3,000.

 

If they got part way through a block and a new version of the lens was introduced, they continued to use the previously assigned numbers for the new version of the lens, rather than:

 

a) keep making an obsolete design just to use up the numbers, or

B) discard those left-over numbers and start a new number sequence for the new lens design.

 

Your lens is a very early version 2, using a left-over number from that last block of 2000 numbers assigned in 1969 for whatever 35 Summicrons were to be made. Version 1 at the beginning, but version 2 by the time they'd made all 2000.

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