Would a 75mm compliment my 35mm

[lct]

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The Nex-5 is not full frame though. Better complement to 50 is 28 for APS-C imho. YMMV.

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[Jaybob]

The Nex-5 is not full frame though. Better complement to 50 is 28 for APS-C imho. YMMV.

 

I was thinking full frame 75 though...

 

My own preference is the 50 (75) and 90 (135) on the NEX5.

 

For film, I tend to pick one lens and stick with it, usually it's the 50.

 

Jay

[CalArts 99]

There are two lenses that complement my v.2 35mm Summilux ASPH at the longer end. One is a 90mm Elmarit-M. The other is the 50mm Summilux ASPH. Serious. During a voyage this autumn they all accompanied me. I used both the 35 and the 50mm lens, about equally, while the 90mm sat unused in my bag because no clear subjects for it came up. The 75mm focal length, far from being a Leica 'classic', did not appear in the Leica lineup until 1979, and for a reason. I wish I could have a M9 finder without those pesky 75mm lines.

 

I have the 75mm Summicron (new and 6 bit) and it's the same issue for me. It sits more often than being used. I also have an older M6 with the 75mm frame lines removed. Now I kind of know why that was done.

 

I'm contemplating selling the 75. Nice lens and nice build quality but at a focal length that doesn't quite work for me. I've also found that the images coming from it have a bit of a 'too clean' look to them, at least according to my own personal set of brain/eyes.

[Messsucherkamera]

A 35/75 set up is a classic two lens combo. The other would be a 28/50.

 

It really depends on the style you shoot and which lenses you like better.

 

There is no queer about having a 35/50 either or a 50/75. Though some may argue that "they're too close".

 

A 35 and a 75 is a good two lens combo, as is a 28 and a 50. It all depends on what you photograph the most.

 

It's important to get clear on what you want to use the lenses for before investing in them.

 

Regarding lenses being "too close" in focal lengths - I have read of a few photographers who carry both a 24mm and a 28mm - it all depends on the subject matter and how you want to photograph it.

[CalArts 99]

A 35 and a 75 is a good two lens combo, as is a 28 and a 50. It all depends on what you photograph the most.

 

It's important to get clear on what you want to use the lenses for before investing in them.

 

Regarding lenses being "too close" in focal lengths - I have read of a few photographers who carry both a 24mm and a 28mm - it all depends on the subject matter and how you want to photograph it.

 

I agree. I think too many people worry about the 'correct combo' and spacing focal lengths evenly, etc.. In the end it's pretty much meaningless since it all depends on what you actually plan on doing with your tools. I bought the 75 for a specific project and used it for a very short time. But now I rarely use it. In hindsight I probably should have rented or borrowed one but I also fell into the trap of thinking it would part of a 'good combo.' (Although with resale prices the way they are now, I probably will be able to sell it at very close to what I paid new.)

 

Personally I'm usually fine working with just one lens. I tend to be more creative without the 'burden' of lens choices.

[algrove]

Ecaton

Good answers. But just out of curiosity, why is the 75 Lux any more of a specialty lens than any other 1.4 or 0.95 lens?

[algrove]

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Personally I'm usually fine working with just one lens. I tend to be more creative without the 'burden' of lens choices.

 

That is spot on!

[wda]

Working with one lens is liberating and creative and less back-breaking. But it is reassuring to be able to swap that lens from another readily available to give you an alternative view of the world on another day.

[billib]

How do you guys rate the latest Summicron 75mm f2? as I'm looking at adding one to my much loved Summicron 35mm?

I would like a bit more tele but feel the 90mm would be too much.

The only drawback I can see is the bright lines for the 75 are just corners in the 50mm frame but I guess you get used to it?

Hi Rudgey, I recently had a heart attack so the 75/f2 APO-cron I

recently purchased hasn't been used much HOWEVER comparing

it to my C/V 35/f1.2 you can tell the 75 is an extraordinary lens. If its

not the finest (Full Frame 35mm) lens I've owned its in the top two or

three. My C/V 35 isn't even close. I'm now on the waiting list for

a 35/f1.4 ASPH lux.

 

As you can probably tell my favorite lens combination is 35mm &

75mm. I have to work out if I want the 21mm or 24mm. It never ends!

[Studio58]

If you go for the 35 Lux why not go for the 75 Lux or the Summicron if you want the latest? Why compromise on any lens? Just wait and save for the best instead of buying and maybe having regrets later that you did not go for the best, whatever the best is to you.

 

I am often amused at the frequency of comments by people who equate a large maximum aperture with quality. From the reports I have read, Summicrons often outperform the faster lenses on account of the technical challenges associated with manufacturing lenses based around large maximum apertures.

[JimGoshorn]

I am often amused at the frequency of comments by people who equate a large maximum aperture with quality. From the reports I have read, Summicrons often outperform the faster lenses on account of the technical challenges associated with manufacturing lenses based around large maximum apertures.

 

When you buy a wide aperture lens, isn't it more a question of extra speed and artistic intent rather than sharpness?

 

Jim

[Jeff S]

"Would a 75mm compliment my 35mm?"

 

 

75 says to 35...."My, you sure look fine."

 

So, yes, I guess it's possible.

 

Jeff

 

PS Sorry, couldn't resist

[Studio58]

When you buy a wide aperture lens, isn't it more a question of extra speed and artistic intent rather than sharpness?

 

Jim

 

of course, that is essentially what I said and that is entirely what it is about. The poster however states that these faster lenses are the best. That is not true, they are just the most expensive and offer a larger aperture. The lenses with the fastest maximum apertures have problems inherent to their design. Many experts when they comment on 'the best' lens in a given focal length (in terms of image quality), refer to the Summicrons over the faster Summiluxes.

[swamiji]

Many experts when they comment on 'the best' lens in a given focal length (in terms of image quality), refer to the Summicrons over the faster Summiluxes.

 

That was true until the FLE was introduced. Now the Summilux's are on par or better than there Summicron counter part. Which does not affect the 75mm as of yet.

 

But traditionally it was recommended to skip a focal length in order to give range in a lens kit. So a 50mm 3 lens kit would be 28mm/50mm/90mm and a 35mm 3 lens kit would be 24mm/35mm/75mm. For a two lens kit, omit either the wide or the tele, depending on need.

 

Currently I use a 24mm/35mm/75mm Summilux kit, But for a single lens kit, I bring out my Noctilux. I would use a 28mm/50mm/90mm kit, but Leica has never produced a 28mm or 90mm Summilux, nor are they likely to.

 

For me the extra f stop is important, for two reasons, one, I really like the subject isolation. Two, it's really dark here where I live in China, we get less sun than in London. So its either, a faster lens, tri-pod, or flash...

 

In terms of a specialty lens, it could be argued that any lens other than a 50mm Summicron is a specialty lens. But as they say YMMV.

[akiralx]

That was true until the FLE was introduced. Now the Summilux's are on par or better than there Summicron counter part. Which does not affect the 75mm as of yet.

 

Not sure I agree: I have both 35 Summilux-ASPHs, a 35 Summicron and 35 Summarit - and definitely prefer the Summarit at smaller apertures (f/5.6 and smaller) in terms of colour rendition, sharpness and contrast, on the M9 at least.

[thompsonkirk]

Unlike others who say they got used to the framelines, I've never managed to do so & use a 75mm external finder.

 

I've used both the Summilux and the Summicron, & much prefer the rendering of the former – Dr. Mandler was right in saying it was his best effort. But the Lux was heavy & hard to focus at 1.4. So I tried the Summicron, which seemed to define the term 'clinical' – too many pores & beard hairs – & I didn't like the bokeh as well.

 

But after one long project that required a 75, I just didn't use it enough to keep it. I bought a cheap used f2.5 CV for the few occasions I might want one, but it's been on the camera only a couple of times. For at least $3K less, it's quite competent for occasional use.

 

In my eccentric opinion, Leicas are 'really' for use with 28-35-50 lenses, those in the range that approximates eye vision.

 

Kirk

[swamiji]

Not sure I agree: I have both 35 Summilux-ASPHs, a 35 Summicron and 35 Summarit - and definitely prefer the Summarit at smaller apertures (f/5.6 and smaller) in terms of colour rendition, sharpness and contrast, on the M9 at least.

 

Summarit's are different, as they are non-ASPH, they are like the old Elmarit with updated glass. Not quite as controlled. I like the old look myself. But it's subjective.

 

f/5.6... WOW to have that much light, at an ISO low enough to tell the difference between, the color rendition between a Summarit/Summicron/Summilux. I don't have that luxury, as I said it's dark here. We won't talk about the excess cash to afford all of them...

 

As I said, YMMV.

[swamiji]

I've used both the Summilux and the Summicron, & much prefer the rendering of the former – Dr. Mandler was right in saying it was his best effort. But the Lux was heavy & hard to focus at 1.4. So I tried the Summicron, which seemed to define the term 'clinical' – too many pores & beard hairs – & I didn't like the bokeh as well.

 

In my eccentric opinion, Leicas are 'really' for use with 28-35-50 lenses, those in the range that approximates eye vision.

 

Kirk

 

I too am a Dr. Mandler fan. His 75mm is amazing, certainly not the sharpest lens on the block, but the over all rendering is beautiful. I do not find, it hard to focus, and my version does not have any particular back focus issues. I just love the lens. But I also agree it's heavy, so I picked up a Summarit, as it was lighter than the Summicron. But it's Dr. Mandlers work that ends up in my bag...

 

I guess you are a MATE fan with that range of glass... 28-35-50... Of course it's very Slow.

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[akiralx]

Summarit's are different, as they are non-ASPH, they are like the old Elmarit with updated glass. Not quite as controlled. I like the old look myself. But it's subjective.

 

f/5.6... WOW to have that much light, at an ISO low enough to tell the difference between, the color rendition between a Summarit/Summicron/Summilux. I don't have that luxury, as I said it's dark here. We won't talk about the excess cash to afford all of them....

 

Here in Aus the difficulty is often too much light - can't shoot at f/1.4 even at 1/4000!

[cbretteville]

Here in Aus the difficulty is often too much light - can't shoot at f/1.4 even at 1/4000!

 

That is what ND filters were invented for.

Carl