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Lightroom 1.0 has separate purple and magenta channels withe hue/sat/lum sliders.

Here is a list of all of the colors: red, orange, yellow, green, aqua, blue, purple, and magenta. Pretty cool! Really helpful for M8 files taken without the 486 filter, especially those with purple and black...

Look at the stem and seatpost in these pics:

Not a replacement for using the filter, but pretty nice in a pinch.

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I've just started working with Lightroom 1.0 and like the overall package. However, in really difficult lighting I can't get an adequate white balance with LR while I can with C1Pro (using either the generic M8 profile or that developed by Edmund). I attach a couple of JPEGs - the first processed with C1Pro - the second with LR 1.0.

 

I'd shot using the 28mm Summicron Asph at 640 with fluorescent white balance set in camera. The first rendition is much closer to the reality than the second - especially the colour of the wood surface and the wall. In both cases white balance was obtained by clicking on a WhiBal graycard ... I recognise that this is a quick and dirty workflow, but often when there are lots of images, what you need is something that will deliver usable with least effort. At the moment, it looks as if it's C1 for the M8.

 

As I said, first image is c1 pro processed / second LR 1.0

 

If other have insights / suggestions, really interested to hear.

 

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If other have insights / suggestions, really interested to hear.

 

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Hi Chris

I have other insights/suggestions!

I've just spent a couple of hours with 1.0, and my conclusion is that the results are over-saturated and hard to control - your images rather prove the point.

 

Have you tried this image in Aperture? I find that it produces calm and undersaturated images, with scope for more adventurous treatment.

 

If you don't have Aperture (or haven't tried Eoin's hack) I'd be interested to have a go with this shot - if you can be bothered, email me the raw file and I'll have a look.

to: jonathan @ slack.co.uk

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Hi Chris

I have other insights/suggestions!

I've just spent a couple of hours with 1.0, and my conclusion is that the results are over-saturated and hard to control - your images rather prove the point.

 

Have you tried this image in Aperture? I find that it produces calm and undersaturated images, with scope for more adventurous treatment.

 

If you don't have Aperture (or haven't tried Eoin's hack) I'd be interested to have a go with this shot - if you can be bothered, email me the raw file and I'll have a look.

to: jonathan @ slack.co.uk

Exactly what I was going to suggest.

I'd be interested in seeing the results, Jono please post your results (if you get the file)

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Thanks for your interest. Jono - I've sent the file via Yousendit. If anyone else is interested in playing with it, the link is YouSendIt - File Sharing Transfer Delivery - PC FTP Replacement.

 

Interested to see what the results are!

 

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Hi Chris,

 

Here is my take on your photo, converted and imported into aperture, default raw decode settings, .20 boost to the saturation and .05 boost to the contrast with white balance taken from your card.

 

A little green around the fluorescent lights, could possibly tweak it more if I had more time but this is just a quick 'n' dirty process in Aperture.

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Hi Chris,

 

I don't know the exact colour of your kitchen, but how does this look?

 

Hans

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Hans that looks pretty normal to me.

 

Okay here is C1 and really just WB it off the card Edmunds linear profile

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Looks like ACR and lightroom are not handling flouresent very well . Same thing in ACR. YUK!!!

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Looks like C1 and Aperture look almost identical. Glad i have not put any money out yet on Lightroom. This needs more testing. I really want to try Aperture maybe I will download the demo and convert some files.

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Dear All - quick reply,

 

Jon's seems a bit desaturated - the closest is Han's version... frustrating after I've paid our for LR... heigh ho.. The issue that hurts most is that I can do this kind of stuff with the 5D without thinking. Not knocking the M8, but we do face a problem with the interpretation of the data that's happening in camera. Maybe 1.10 will do the job. If people like Guy or Sean who have an in with Leica could pass on this kind of problem I'd be grateful, (as I expect many others will be.) Typically I use the M because I want to take it into places I don't want to use a DSLR - and BAD lighting is par for the course here. It seems that maybe Leica placed too much emphasis on developing profiles for good light conditions and forgot the reality of why many people use their cameras...

 

Thanks for the efforts... good if we could get the message across to Leica - even with IR cut filters and WhiBal, when the lighting's mixed and difficult, the camera's not getting it as good as we'd like.

 

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Dear All - quick reply,

 

Thanks for the efforts... good if we could get the message across to Leica - even with IR cut filters and WhiBal, when the lighting's mixed and difficult, the camera's not getting it as good as we'd like.

 

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Chris, not clear, your shots are with the 486 filter?

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Seems to me like the results shown tend to confirm that C1 is the proprietary converter for the M8 but perhaps an acceptable preset can be created in Lightroom and then applied depending on the need for it. Just like on the E-1 most other converters can never match the colors from Studio or more famously the in camera jpegs, right Jono ???

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Here is a quick conversion using BibblePro. I used the JHR v1 profile and white balanced to the grey card and the following settings exposure +1.5, saturation -22 and highlight recovery +50, fill light 0 on the first image and fill light .38 on the second image.

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OK, I'll give it a try. How's this?

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You clearly recovered more shadow detail but the image has a yellow color cast to me. Of course, maybe that is the way it actually looked. Alos I still see some purplish (magenta) hue in the upper left cabinet corner.

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