acielpete Posted December 2, 2011 Share #21 Posted December 2, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) If you can, rent an old movie called "Evil Roy Slade" (starring John "Gomez Addams" Astin and a host of other notables). He's an old-west outlaw trying to reform, and in one scene he gets a job in a shoe store. One customer insists on buying shoes too small, and Slade is trying to get them on by slamming the customer's foot against a wall. The shop owner (played by Milton Berle) comes up and hands him a shoehorn and says "Try this." Slade takes the shoehorn and shoves it against the customer's throat and growls "Git that shoe on!" The next customer complains his shoe is too loose...so Slade pistol-whips the guy's foot with the butt of his six-shooter. "There, that foot'll swell up and them shoes'll fit just fine." I'm keeping 1.162. Works fine with my 2GB cards. that is great, any idea where I might be able to download it and retro put it on my M9? thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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k-hawinkler Posted December 2, 2011 Share #22 Posted December 2, 2011 that is great, any idea where I might be able to download it and retro put it on my M9?thanks! PM me your email address. I'll send you a copy. K-H. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
t024484 Posted December 3, 2011 Share #23 Posted December 3, 2011 The new firmware is crap. It may improve memory card compatibility in a few cases (not for me as I didn't have any issues before) ... but it is significantly slower in terms of buffer-to-card transfer speed than the previous firmware. Shooting and saving seven frames in JPEG+DNG uncompressed format to a SanDisk SDHC "Extreme" Class 10 card takes 40 s with firmware v1.162 but 100 s (geez, that's 1 min 40 s!) with firmware v1.174. I consider this a serious bug. So I am back to firmware 1.162 for now. It is working fine with all my cards and much faster than v1.174. My 16 GB Sandisk card takes 53 sec for seven frames JPEG fine + DNG uncompressed. A big difference from from the 100 sec that you measured. I can only imagine that the card is the cause of this. It seems that v1.174 can be used as a test vehicle to tell the good cards from the less suited ones. Hans Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chipkahn Posted December 3, 2011 Share #24 Posted December 3, 2011 The new firmware is a total failure for larger cards, I think they are coming out with a new new firmware this week coming. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted December 3, 2011 Share #25 Posted December 3, 2011 I can only imagine that the card is the cause of this. No, it's not. Because all my cards are slower with v1.174 than with v1.162 ... albeit the speed loss is less severe with the other cards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 3, 2011 Share #26 Posted December 3, 2011 So it is probably not the checking but the rewriting of the files that got corrupted on the bad card that takes the time? My 16 GB Sandisk card takes 53 sec for seven frames JPEG fine + DNG uncompressed.A big difference from from the 100 sec that you measured. I can only imagine that the card is the cause of this. It seems that v1.174 can be used as a test vehicle to tell the good cards from the less suited ones. Hans I'm a bit frustrated I cannot test myself. I have a card that I know that is bad and an older version of the same Ultra II 16 that I know that is good. My camera will probably return from Solms with 1.174 on it. No matter. I have 1.162 on my desktop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted December 3, 2011 Share #27 Posted December 3, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) I most likely have all updates from the beginning. K-H. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_w Posted December 4, 2011 Share #28 Posted December 4, 2011 Agree with the comment on here that the new firmware is slower. I did not expect a difference but I have noticed I have the 'buffer full' message more frequently and I am missing more shots while waiting for the camera to be ready. Before, it was not really an issue for me in practice; now it is. I hope if there is a new, new firmware due shortly that the speed issue has been addressed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted December 4, 2011 Share #29 Posted December 4, 2011 This is turning into another triumph for Leica, to rank alongside the first release of the 21mm Super Elmar, people wanting the old 'worse' version of the Firmware back Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexander Posted December 4, 2011 Share #30 Posted December 4, 2011 My M9 needs with the new firm wear 44 sec for DNG + JPG fine 4.5MB on a sandisk extreme 16gb 30mb/s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexander Posted December 4, 2011 Share #31 Posted December 4, 2011 My M9 needs with the new firm wear 44 sec for DNG + JPG fine 4.5MB on a sandisk extreme 16gb 30mb/s My other M9 needs 42 sec on the new firm wear with a sandik extreme 30mb/s 8GB I did overwrought both cards before Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 4, 2011 Share #32 Posted December 4, 2011 I most likely have all updates from the beginning. K-H. I got a new computer not too long ago. I did not transfer all kinds of non-essential data, just what I stored in my data disk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted December 4, 2011 Share #33 Posted December 4, 2011 I got a new computer not too long ago. I did not transfer all kinds of non-essential data, just what I stored in my data disk. Jaap, I understand. If you need something, just PM me your email address and let me know. Best, K-H. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Roberts Posted December 4, 2011 Share #34 Posted December 4, 2011 Weird on the new firmware. I don't use Sandisk cards, but do shoot with large capacity (8GB / 16GB) cards. I upgraded the firmware and over the last three weddings I didn't notice any slow-down at all with the M9. Is this only on the Sandisk SD cards? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 4, 2011 Share #35 Posted December 4, 2011 Interesting question. Sandisk was the main troublemaker, so Leica may well have restricted the checking routine to that brand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
t024484 Posted December 4, 2011 Share #36 Posted December 4, 2011 My other M9 needs 42 sec on the new firm wear with a sandik extreme 30mb/s 8GB I did overwrought both cards before Is this time for DNG uncompressed + JPG fine ? Hans Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted December 4, 2011 Share #37 Posted December 4, 2011 Weird on the new firmware. I don't use Sandisk cards, but do shoot with large capacity (8GB / 16GB) cards. I upgraded the firmware and over the last three weddings I didn't notice any slow-down at all with the M9. Is this only on the Sandisk SD cards? No. http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/1895973-post37.html Unfortunately I never timed my Panasonic Gold cards under firmware 1.162. However, they don't seem to be the fastest. K-H. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Roberts Posted December 4, 2011 Share #38 Posted December 4, 2011 My 16 GB Sandisk card takes 53 sec for seven frames JPEG fine + DNG uncompressed.A big difference from from the 100 sec that you measured. I can only imagine that the card is the cause of this. It seems that v1.174 can be used as a test vehicle to tell the good cards from the less suited ones. Hans I just ran two quick tests with the latest firmware. 7 shots, lens cap on (so the JPEG engine isn't doing anything with content). Here are the results to entirely clear the buffer (red light stops flashing): DNG + JPEG FINE: Panasonic Gold 16GB class UHS 1 // read 90 / write 25mbs= 36.9s compressed; 52s uncompressed Panasonic Gold 8GB class 10 SD HC (no UHS) = 44s compressed; 65s uncompressed DNG only (which is the way I normally shoot) Panasonic Gold 16GB class UHS 1 // read 90 / write 25mbs= 20s compressed, 38s uncompressed DNG Panasonic Gold 8GB class 10 SD HC (no UHS) = 24.7s compressed, 49s uncompressed DNG Nothing like 100s there.... and remember, this isn't the time it takes to get another shot, but to entirely clear the buffer to the card. Doesn't seem that slow to me.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted December 4, 2011 Share #39 Posted December 4, 2011 That's DNG compressed or uncompressed? K-H. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Roberts Posted December 4, 2011 Share #40 Posted December 4, 2011 That's DNG compressed or uncompressed? K-H. Both--I updated the tests. The worst case is using a regular, inexpensive 8GB Panasonic card with uncompressed DNGs and JPEG Fine; it's still not nearly 100s to clear the buffer. Since I usually shoot just compressed DNGs, 20s to clear the buffer entirely is just fine with me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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