cosmonaut Posted October 18, 2011 Share #1 Â Posted October 18, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) This subject came up on another site it started out about using Pellican cases for storing Leicas. But I have two Leicas, M6 and M3 and at some point may get another one. But I was thinking about getting a small safe for the house, not just for cameras. But it was stated not to keep Leica cameras in a fireproof safe. Something to do with the fact fireproof safes take oxygen out of the air and can damage Leicas. I have googled this but can not find any info on it. Has anyone else ever heard this or are any of you using a fireproof safe. I saw a video of Eggleston once and he had a whole line up of cameras in a safe. So is it a good thing or bad? Certainly I would not just store a Leica long term without use in a safe but would keep them there some as I rotate them out shooting them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pico Posted October 19, 2011 Share #2 Â Posted October 19, 2011 I had a Pelican case that stored a whole Nikon system for about 20 years. The foam and seal had turned to tar. If they have not fixed that, then it's not an archival solution. Â As for a safe, it should have a dehumidifying device in it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted October 19, 2011 Share #3 Â Posted October 19, 2011 Isn't it a bit over the top to store an M3 and M6 in a safe? I mean, unless they have a sentimental value they can be easily replaced out of insurance shoult they be stolen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted October 19, 2011 Share #4 Â Posted October 19, 2011 As for a safe, it should have a dehumidifying device in it. Â Â In MN yes, in NM no, me thinks. We have 15% humidity here in the winter. Â K-H. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmonaut Posted October 20, 2011 Author Share #5 Â Posted October 20, 2011 Isn't it a bit over the top to store an M3 and M6 in a safe? I mean, unless they have a sentimental value they can be easily replaced out of insurance shoult they be stolen. Â Yes they can easily be replaced. You have a point. But where I live home invasions are at an all time high due to drugs, meth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spydrxx Posted October 20, 2011 Share #6 Â Posted October 20, 2011 You could put them in a safety deposit box at your local bank and intermittently check on them as you pull them out to use them. Most boxes these days go for around $60/yr. Home safes, unless they are big or firmly bolted down, can pretty easily be removed...like carrying a TV. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted October 20, 2011 Share #7 Â Posted October 20, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) In MN yes, in NM no, me thinks.We have 15% humidity here in the winter. Â K-H. Â And except for an annual cloud-burst, 15% is about as high as it gets. I lived in Roswell at one time. Hey - I still have the window swamp cooler for the '58 Bug! Â Â It doesn't work in MN. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomB_tx Posted October 20, 2011 Share #8  Posted October 20, 2011 And except for an annual cloud-burst, 15% is about as high as it gets. I lived in Roswell at one time. Hey - I still have the window swamp cooler for the '58 Bug!  It doesn't work in MN. My 3 Texas Beetles (62, 69, 73) sympathize, but didn't care for our 100-110 temps this summer either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted October 20, 2011 Share #9  Posted October 20, 2011 The safe 'oxygen' business is nonsense.  Storing in some huge vault that isn't opened for months may result in low humidity but I can't see this damaging anything photographic to be honest.... except possibly film.  There are plenty of second-hand safes about (in the UK anyway) and they are very useful for peace of mind particularly when away for any length of time. They certainly deter the average opportunist burglar. Need to be heavy enough not to be manhandled away though.  I now have 4..... one for camera gear, one for jewellery, one for precious stones (I make jewellery to keep my sane and take my mind off the day job) and one for documents.  The older ones, although not as secure are often very decorative bits of furniture in their own right .... at one stage I had a garage full and renovated and kept the best of them. The second hand safe people I got my last from said the crap old ones get shipped off to the coast where they get dumped to shore up the sea defences......  My M9 lives in this when not in use......... this is just at the end of a rather long and painful refurbishment.... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/164393-storing-cameras/?do=findComment&comment=1822245'>More sharing options...
pico Posted October 21, 2011 Share #10 Â Posted October 21, 2011 My 3 Texas Beetles (62, 69, 73) sympathize, but didn't care for our 100-110 temps this summer either. Â Mobile-1 synth, full-flow oil system and a Setrab external cooler help. Â So do CNC carved aluminum cylinders with no liners (instead nickelsil plated - guarantee cooler). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomB_tx Posted October 21, 2011 Share #11 Â Posted October 21, 2011 Mobile-1 synth, full-flow oil system and a Setrab external cooler help. Â So do CNC carved aluminum cylinders with no liners (instead nickelsil plated - guarantee cooler). Â Well, Amsoil 5W40 and full flow; but this is too far off-topic here. Try Volkswebbin! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted October 21, 2011 Share #12 Â Posted October 21, 2011 Back on topic. I once had a rare Graflex Combat 70mm rangefinder camera. (#7) The complete kit, virtually unused. It was stored in a mil-spec aluminum case much like an olive-drab Zero Halliburton. It had none of the foam used in many cases today. Just wood, aluminum and fabric. It survived perfectly well for decades. No rust, nothing went bad. Â That might be a place to start. Safes - I know nothing of safes except that those that use a single or double hollow key are disappointingly easy to crack - in less than 5 minutes. But I use them because they are affordable. It's a good idea to raise them above the floor if in basement and the floor wicks moisture. Â *BTW - it was the sale of this kit that financed two new M7s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobey bilek Posted October 22, 2011 Share #13 Â Posted October 22, 2011 If the safe is small, it walks away to be opened later. Â If big enough, it will sag the floor of any home or will get wet in a basement. Â That leaves you with safety deposit boxes or well hidden behind a false wall or disguised as something else. But if a thief wants something he knows is in a home, he will find it. Time is on your side always because he does not want to spend 30 minutes in there. Â Safety boxes , except for my bank, are always placed below grade. I have watched them build many banks over the years and step one is to dig a hole ( foundation) and put the safe down there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted October 22, 2011 Share #14 Â Posted October 22, 2011 As Sydney gets quite humid in Summer my equipment is stored in a small 4 shelf dehumidifier cabinet (about 55cmx30x30cm). It was surprisingly cheap at about $400 on sale. It also keeps the equipment dust free and nicely organised. The cabinet has a lock and key which I don't bother using. Â Personally, for my equipment comprising an M9 and 8 lenses (5 of which are Leicas) I couldn't be bothered with a safe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJP Posted October 22, 2011 Share #15 Â Posted October 22, 2011 My safe is a A&A Oscar Barnack one day bag for the M8 and a few lenses and a drawer in one of my grandfathers (& then my mothers) bits of inherited furniture for the M2 & some other cameras (FM2, F3). What else do you need to put some stuff? Â Burgularly types will probably take the video recorder anyway, not the stuff in the bag. In addition we have three guard (attack) cats:rolleyes: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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