Ronan Posted October 11, 2011 Share #41 Posted October 11, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) NB23 you REALLY should do some research before insulting people. I even gave you the benefit of the doubt, guess you blew that too. Even if you want to talk used vs used, $4000 vs $1200, my argument still stands strong while yours... Needs research. Way to drop the ball. I actually thought you were joking at first. It's the going rate for a new MP nowadays. I even told him to do his research... Used they go for over $4000 with papers. This isn't even counting shipping and taxes! But the very simple point stands, M6 is much cheaper than MP. If your M6 ends up paperweight it hurts a lot less. Oh and the zincpest is a minority issue. I bet theirs more cracked M8/M9 sensors than M6 with zincpest. Edit: New MP will run you just over $5600 here, right now. Used one is $4300 with taxes if bought at a dealer, it's quite used. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 Hi Ronan, Take a look here Leica MP vs M6. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
wattsy Posted October 11, 2011 Share #42 Posted October 11, 2011 Don't drag me into your little spat with Ned - I was just stating a fact. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticman Posted October 11, 2011 Share #43 Posted October 11, 2011 I bet theirs more cracked M8/M9 sensors than M6 with zincpest. ...and you can leave the M8 out of your M9 problem list as well, while you're at it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB23 Posted October 12, 2011 Share #44 Posted October 12, 2011 Luxury goods pricing mechanics mixed with a collector's market drives the prices up on rare items. Also called speculation, yes? We are currently in a Leica speculation Bubble that was impossible to predict and impossible to control, even by Leica Inc. Don't forget, the M6 MSRP was similar to the MP. Everything else is speculation and an ebay fantasy. Not much people actually pay over 3500$ for a MP. No matter what you may think. This being said, the market has spoken: people pay a few thousands extra for a mere top plate made of brass with black paint applied. Just goes to show how rhe very UnLeica the M6 zinc is perceived. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted October 12, 2011 Share #45 Posted October 12, 2011 They pay a lot over $3500 if they buy a new one... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB23 Posted October 12, 2011 Share #46 Posted October 12, 2011 They pay a lot over $3500 if they buy a new one... That's right now, thanks to the bubble. Until last year or so, they were 3500$ Brand new. Certainly so in 2008 when they we're manufactured and the M8 wasn't so well received. I was toying with the idea of getting a A la Carte that would cost me somewhere around 3800$ just 2 years ago. The 2008 MP was about equal as the 1984 M6 in constant dollars. I might be wrong by a hundred or two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted October 12, 2011 Share #47 Posted October 12, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) In the UK, a new MP is about £3,500 That's Pounds, not Dollars. Current exchange Rate is about $1.50 to the pound, therefore, UK price is about $5,300 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB23 Posted October 12, 2011 Share #48 Posted October 12, 2011 In the UK, a new MP is about £3,500 That's Pounds, not Dollars. Current exchange Rate is about $1.50 to the pound, therefore, UK price is about $5,300 Sure. And how much is a Brand new M6? Let's compare apples to apples. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted October 12, 2011 Share #49 Posted October 12, 2011 Now you're just being ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted October 12, 2011 Share #50 Posted October 12, 2011 "Now"? Regards, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB23 Posted October 12, 2011 Share #51 Posted October 12, 2011 Not really. If a M6 was manufactured in parallel to the MP, or mre realistically in parallel to the M7, how much do you estimate its price would be? My guess is a (very) few hundreds apart. And there is my point. A point that Bill's totally missing, it seems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted October 12, 2011 Share #52 Posted October 12, 2011 It is true that when the MP was introduced around 2003, the price was not widely different to that of the M6TTL. From memory, an MP was around £1800 and the M6TTL could be bought new for around £1450. It is also true that the MP and M7 RRP has increased significantly in recent years though not, IMO, as fast as Ned suggests. I don't think this price rise has anything to do with the Leica "bubble" which is much more recent and largely restricted to popular fast ASPH lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB23 Posted October 16, 2011 Share #53 Posted October 16, 2011 Thanks, Wattsy. Azzo, your last comment got deleted really fast but I will still answer. Yes I was dumb to send it in again and again. But people all over the world recommended him. I realized, later, that they were mainly cheapskates. But being silly and foolish isn't always bad. Like when I purchased the "overpriced POS" Noctilux for 1600$, 5 years ago. Oh man, you wouldn't believe how many folks got on my back for that particular "bad" move. According to those internet experts and HCB lovers, I was much better off with the cheaper 50 lux asph . Or even the MP for 2300$, back then, and got called an ignorant because Leica was "going bankrupt". Or the overpriced Noct-Nikkor for 900$, or even the "soft" Nikkor 28 f1.4 for 950$. Being foolish and stupid isn't always bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
azzo Posted October 16, 2011 Share #54 Posted October 16, 2011 Azzo, your last comment got deleted really fast but I will still answer. Yes I was dumb to send it in again and again. But people all over the world recommended him. I realized, later, that they were mainly cheapskates. But, the problem is, you kept sending it back to someone who obviously enjoyed spraying oil. I mean .... Once bitten, twice shy ... etc, Ned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted October 16, 2011 Share #55 Posted October 16, 2011 I'm trying to compare an MP vs M6 (non TTL). Besides the differences in rewind crank and some other cosmetic differences, is there a difference in the mechanics between the cameras? Yes, lot's of differences. Read the Erwin Puts pages on MP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted October 16, 2011 Share #56 Posted October 16, 2011 M6 has paint blisters? I didn't even know M6 has paint... My first batch M6 black chrome is prestine... The M6 titanisiert had sometimes blisters. ( Titan falling of ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth3kpl Posted October 24, 2011 Share #57 Posted October 24, 2011 Here's an example Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kivis Posted November 10, 2011 Share #58 Posted November 10, 2011 M6 has paint blisters? I didn't even know M6 has paint... My first batch M6 black chrome is prestine... Which is better black paint or black chrome? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB23 Posted November 10, 2011 Share #59 Posted November 10, 2011 Which is better black paint or black chrome? Black chraint Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted November 10, 2011 Share #60 Posted November 10, 2011 No, black phrome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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