Ronan Posted October 9, 2011 Share #41  Posted October 9, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) The next Fuji EVIL « will likely be smaller than 24x36mm » according to The Online Photographer and the lack of AA filter makes a difference i favour of Leica as far as resolution is concerned.  Still in favor when it cost $5000 more? Still in favor if you can use your M lenses with the FUJI camera? Still in favor if the High ISO, MP, Ergonomics, Algorythm is better with the FUJI camera?  This gives us a lot to think about, and at the end of the day... ITS ANOTHER OPTION!  Who can say no to this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted October 9, 2011 Posted October 9, 2011 Hi Ronan, Take a look here Fuji rumored to bring new M mount camera.. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
lct Posted October 10, 2011 Share #42 Â Posted October 10, 2011 I just answered to Sblitz's post above. I am sure Fuji can make a good camera. As an old R-D1 user i know that very good results can be obtained with Leica lenses on non Leica bodies. The Ricoh GXR with M module is another evidence of that. Those are crop cameras though. It is not tomorrow that the M9 will have competitors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted October 10, 2011 Share #43 Â Posted October 10, 2011 Quite. Â The GXR M Module is not competition to anything M-shaped, with the exception of the 8. But it is a useful adjunct, and that is how I would regard anything that is less than FF. Â Regards, Â Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronan Posted October 10, 2011 Share #44 Â Posted October 10, 2011 M9 is hardly the FF holy grail... Nikon and Canon does it better. MF backs even better than all combine. Â You don't need FF for beautiful eye opening photos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted October 10, 2011 Share #45 Â Posted October 10, 2011 Not sure what you're trying to demonstrate here. Most of us are using canikon gear as well. Leica is the only one to make digital rangefinders and Leica lenses are better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmradman Posted October 10, 2011 Share #46  Posted October 10, 2011 The next Fuji EVIL « will likely be smaller than 24x36mm » according to The Online Photographer and the lack of AA filter makes a difference i favour of Leica as far as resolution is concerned.  We really don't know how much smaller, all various online rumours are coming from common source and that information is at best vague.  When Nikon launched its first full frame sensor in the D3 it was and still is smaller than full frame; 36 x 23.9mm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted October 10, 2011 Share #47 Â Posted October 10, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Nikon has no problem with offset microlenses. It is not to morrow that another FF sensor will be able to fit M lenses IMHO. Unless it is that of the M10 of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmradman Posted October 10, 2011 Share #48 Â Posted October 10, 2011 Even if Fuji launches CSC with sensor bigger than APS-C who is to say it will accommodate M lenses. Â I can't recall this being explicitly mentioned anywhere, could be wrong of course. Â It appears that everybody assumes that all mirror less cameras can accommodate M lenses. For one Samsung NX system has registry distance about 30mm so it doesn't support M lenses for infinity focusing. Â This is taken from www.bythom.com Thom is pretty good in his comments for new trends and produucts even if still vapourware (maybe a bit wrong on number of X100 units sold). Â Fujifilm Locks in on X Oct 5 (news and commentary)--Fujifilm used to be all about S (S1, S2 Pro, S3 Pro, etc.). Then it was F (F30, F300, F550, etc). Well, get ready for X, probably due to the fact that the X100 sold 300,000 units already and is their first real hit in awhile (and which is about 300,000 more than Fujifilm thought they'd do prior to last Photokina show, where the camera was demonstrated to see whether people were actually interested or not). Now, the X monicker is permeating through the lineup. We already have the compact sensor X10 that should be popping out any day now. Next up will be the bridge camera X-S1 (still with a compact sensor size, though). Finally, we have X??, a new mirrorless mount system that will appear in prototype form at CES next January and would be slated for spring 2012 production. If I'm interpreting correctly, X really means "better than the crummy F models we've been releasing lately." The new mirrorless camera has a number of interesting elements to it. I'm still trying to fully decipher the materials from the Japanese press conference where Fujifilm made the announcement, but these things seem vaguely clear: (1) a new lens mount (i.e. not m4/3); (2) a larger than APS/DX sensor, but not as big as full frame/FX; (3) higher resolution and better noise handling than any existing FX sensor (which means more than 24mp and better than D3s); and (4) non-Bayer in nature. While some are thinking that this might mark the appearance of Fujifilm's three-layer organic sensor, I'd bet otherwise; I'm guessing non-filtered photosites coupled with quasi-Bayer. Of course, this could easily be interpreted as a "wait for me" announcement, as only Canon and Fujifilm have nothing they can point to as "mirrorless." And won't, for almost a year, given Fujifilm's dates. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted October 10, 2011 Share #49 Â Posted October 10, 2011 The way to bet (assuming one likes to win one's bets.... ) Â Fuji will introduce an interchangeable-lens version of the X100 before the end of 2012. With a set of Fuji lenses. Â It will have APS-C sensor. Â It will NOT use the M-mount. But like the m4/3rds cameras, it will have a short enough flange-to-sensor distance to allow the use of M lenses (among others) via an adapter. Fuji may or may not sell the adapter - but someone will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted October 10, 2011 Share #50 Â Posted October 10, 2011 Even if Fuji launches CSC with sensor bigger than APS-C who is to say it will accommodate M lenses. Â I can't recall this being explicitly mentioned anywhere, could be wrong of course. Â It appears that everybody assumes that all mirror less cameras can accommodate M lenses. For one Samsung NX system has registry distance about 30mm so it doesn't support M lenses for infinity focusing. Â This is taken from www.bythom.com Thom is pretty good in his comments for new trends and produucts even if still vapourware (maybe a bit wrong on number of X100 units sold). Â Fujifilm Locks in on X Oct 5 (news and commentary)--Fujifilm used to be all about S (S1, S2 Pro, S3 Pro, etc.). Then it was F (F30, F300, F550, etc). Well, get ready for X, probably due to the fact that the X100 sold 300,000 units already and is their first real hit in awhile (and which is about 300,000 more than Fujifilm thought they'd do prior to last Photokina show, where the camera was demonstrated to see whether people were actually interested or not). .... Â Interesting considerations... but the figure of 300.000 seems an exaggeration, when, as reported, Fuij spoke of 70.000 as a figure that has been over their expectations... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmradman Posted October 11, 2011 Share #51 Â Posted October 11, 2011 Interesting considerations... but the figure of 300.000 seems an exaggeration, when, as reported, Fuij spoke of 70.000 as a figure that has been over their expectations... Â I did say that Thom exaggerated, most likely in error, on number of X100's. Still 70,000 over lets say last six months is massive - something like 10x more than M9 per month, and all this emulating quintessential Leica RF camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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