craigrmurray Posted February 9, 2007 Share #21 Â Posted February 9, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Thanks, LJ. That helps me a lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankg Posted February 9, 2007 Share #22 Â Posted February 9, 2007 I have 2 Heliopan IR cut filters now. It will be interesting to see how the Leica filters compare. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venkman Posted February 9, 2007 Author Share #23 Â Posted February 9, 2007 Does anyone know if this will be problem with fitting some of the lenses and their shades? Â I can tell you that the 2,8/28mm shade fits like a glove - I wondered about that myself, because the B+W filter on my 50mm Summilux prevents the claws of the hood to get a grab - but that's a strange looking hood anyway . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterv Posted February 10, 2007 Share #24  Posted February 10, 2007 Dirk,  and others who already received the Leica IR filters, please take a look at this thread:  http://www.leica-camera-user.com/digital-forum/16055-candles-reflection-m8.html  Would it be possible to make a few test shots in kind of like the same situation, so as to provoke internal reflection?  I assume a lot of people are curious to know if the new Leica (Hoya?) filters are AR coated on the BACK side.  Thanks  Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venkman Posted February 10, 2007 Author Share #25 Â Posted February 10, 2007 I would try to provoke such a situation, if my M8 wouldn't be in Solms for the upgrade. I can do it once it's back from Solms, in case noone else jumped in in the meantime. Â They appear to coated from the inside as well, but what would I know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthury Posted February 10, 2007 Share #26 Â Posted February 10, 2007 Sean, Â markings are (in my case): LEICA E46 UV/IR 13411 / opposite side GERMANY 13411 is the part number on the box. Â See attached (not a keeper, but it'll do) Â P.S. One interesting fact maybe: The proforma invoice lists as "country of manufacture" Japan. Green IR filter? I thot IR filters are supposed to be absolutely colorless? Â Another thing: is this filter from a proprietary Leica formula or is it the same 486 B+W filter re-badged? Did you say Japan? So, Hoya is involved, then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthury Posted February 10, 2007 Share #27 Â Posted February 10, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) A casual search revealed that the this filter is probably closer to the 489 than the 486 beause the 489 has the same green tint: Â B+W 39 mm 489 Infrared Glass Filter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venkman Posted February 10, 2007 Author Share #28  Posted February 10, 2007 Green IR filter? I thot IR filters are supposed to be absolutely colorless? Another thing: is this filter from a proprietary Leica formula or is it the same 486 B+W filter re-badged? Did you say Japan? So, Hoya is involved, then?  That's just a reflection. If you look straight into the filter, it's colorless, if you look from different angles, you'll see either some reds or some greens. It's not really bad and obtrusive though.  Japan is ONLY written in the proforma invoice as country of manufacturing. Whether that is really the case or not must be answered by Leica. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterv Posted February 10, 2007 Share #29  Posted February 10, 2007 A casual search revealed that the this filter is probably closer to the 489 than the 486 beause the 489 has the same green tint: ]  Arthury,  that's weird...  now I'm confused. (again)  This is what B + W say about the filters you mention: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/15669-filters-are-delivered-in-germany-now/?do=findComment&comment=167695'>More sharing options...
mjh Posted February 10, 2007 Share #30 Â Posted February 10, 2007 A casual search revealed that the this filter is probably closer to the 489 than the 486 beause the 489 has the same green tint It is an interference filter like the 486, not an absorption filter like the 489. Interference filter will appear to be either green or red if viewed at an angle; they are actually colourless, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronJ Posted February 10, 2007 Share #31 Â Posted February 10, 2007 I ordered a 60mm and a 46mm. I figured I would get one for what will undoubtedly be my most used lens -- the 28mm Summicron ASPH -- and one for what would otherwise be the most expensive filter for me to buy out of pocket -- the one for my Noctilux. Â Can anyone tell me what negative effects I might experience if I were to use these w/ film? The idea of changing filters back and forth isn't torturous but semi-unappealing nonetheless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted February 10, 2007 Share #32  Posted February 10, 2007 ...if you look from different angles, you'll see either some reds or some greens. It's not really bad and obtrusive though... Do you mean Leica filters look different to this actually? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/15669-filters-are-delivered-in-germany-now/?do=findComment&comment=167884'>More sharing options...
Venkman Posted February 11, 2007 Author Share #33 Â Posted February 11, 2007 98% of the time, yes. Â Of course you can provoke the exact colorful reflections you just posted, but that's in an angle range of maybe 5 degrees? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest xxl-user Posted February 11, 2007 Share #34 Â Posted February 11, 2007 by the way: Â are the original leica ir-filters also available in silver chrome? Â i think black filters on silver lenses do not look nice. Â arnold Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted February 11, 2007 Share #35 Â Posted February 11, 2007 Do you mean Leica filters look different to this actually? Â I don't see how they could. A dichroic "IR-cut" filter looks increasingly green in transmission as you increase the angle away from vertical, and increasingly pink in reflection as the angle increases. And is clear to start with. That's how all the fancy colors are achieved. green plus whatever color you are either transmitting or red plus whatever color you are reflecting. Â scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootist Posted February 11, 2007 Share #36 Â Posted February 11, 2007 by the way:Â are the original leica ir-filters also available in silver chrome? Â i think black filters on silver lenses do not look nice. Â arnold When you order your 2 free filters they give you the choice of silver/chrome or black. So yes it would seem you can BUY them in either finish. That is if your dealer stocks both finishes. Otherwise you would need to order the finish you want. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted February 11, 2007 Share #37 Â Posted February 11, 2007 ...A dichroic "IR-cut" filter looks increasingly green in transmission as you increase the angle away from vertical, and increasingly pink in reflection as the angle increases... Thank you Scott. So am i right in assuming that the only way to hide those colors as far as possible is to put a rather long hood on the lenses? Short hoods like built-in ones would be too small at certain angles i guess. Am i missing something? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted February 11, 2007 Share #38 Â Posted February 11, 2007 Am i missing something? What problem are you trying to solve? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted February 11, 2007 Share #39 Â Posted February 11, 2007 I have 2 Heliopan IR cut filters now. It will be interesting to see how the Leica filters compare. Â I have a comparison of all three filters in my "M8 Updates" article: the Leica filter (mine is marked Schneider 486 MRC), the B+W 486 F-Pro and the Heliopan Digital. The first two parts deal with color rendition and cyan drift. The last will deal with flare and reflections. Â Cheers, Â Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted February 11, 2007 Share #40 Â Posted February 11, 2007 What problem are you trying to solve? I'd like to know how to hide the reddish, greenish or whatever colors of those IR-cut filters in order to stay as unobtrusive as i've always been, or tried to be, with my Leica's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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