BlackDE Posted July 2, 2011 Share #1 Â Posted July 2, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) The Summicron is an outstanding lens. But just how good is the Summarit? Does anybody have some insight? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted July 2, 2011 Posted July 2, 2011 Hi BlackDE, Take a look here 50mm Summicron vs. 50mm Summarit. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
ismon Posted July 2, 2011 Share #2 Â Posted July 2, 2011 asked the same question, back when both lenses were still new. In a response from Leitz, they assured me that the Summarit was capabable of resolving 500 lines per millimeter when tested electronically. Furthermore, such numbers were meaningless in the real world. I have owned and used both. They are apples and oranges. From the most practical standpoint, choose the Summicron. It is truly a universal lens, suited to low light photojournalism and equally to photomacrography. I have used mine on a Focomat to project an 8'x12' enlargement. With the standard E39 filter size, you can simplify your kit to oufit yout 35, 50, 90, and 135. The Summarit is a class act. Beautiful images, but a large, clunky mount. Nothing about it is standard. It sports a unique lens hood, filter, and the F/stop ring runs backwards. It's designed solely for general photography, as it is little more than a coated (1936) Xenon. Sill a nice lens though, besides--how often do you really think you will actuall need to shoot at F/1.5? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnloumiles Posted July 2, 2011 Share #3 Â Posted July 2, 2011 I have a 50 Summicron and 75 Summarit so I cant can't compare directly between the two as I use them differently. I will say though that I really enjoy the Summarit, it has a very clean, modern and saturated rendition to it that is a welcome change from the classic look of the Summicron. The out of focus areas are quite nice at the 75mm level, I don't know if that holds moving down to 50 or 35 but I sometimes wish I had the 50mm so I could use it more. Â In the end I use the Summicron more, both for length and speed but the Summarit can hold it's own if you give it a chance. It is a real Leica and I'm sure at some point it will prove itself as such to the Leica-rati at large. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted July 2, 2011 Share #4 Â Posted July 2, 2011 Comparisons here. Â Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyril Jayant Posted July 3, 2011 Share #5  Posted July 3, 2011 Comparisons here. Jeff  I have 50 mm Summicron and I feel that is a universal lens in general photography. It was my favourite lens on M6 and since I got the M8 I prefer 35mm Summicron on it as I am feeling the framing is same as 50mm on M6. Summicrons are known to be one of the optics ever produced by Leica and it no doubt.  Have a look at the all caparison of all lenses on the link below,>>>>>  LEICA Lenses Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyril Jayant Posted July 3, 2011 Share #6 Â Posted July 3, 2011 The Summicron is an outstanding lens. But just how good is the Summarit? Does anybody have some insight? Â Have a look at this>>>>> Â LEICA Lenses Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnloumiles Posted July 3, 2011 Share #7  Posted July 3, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Have a look at this>>>>> LEICA Lenses  Careful you might be opening a can of worms with that link, but I think you already knew that;) I think he's kinda funny but do not use him as a litmus.  He recommends against the Summarit because it's cheaply made (supposedly) even though he concedes the images coming from it are spot on.  Much prefer Mr. Puts. He gives the Summarit line great approval. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDE Posted July 3, 2011 Author Share #8 Â Posted July 3, 2011 Careful you might be opening a can of worms with that link, but I think you already knew that;) I think he's kinda funny but do not use him as a litmus. Â He recommends against the Summarit because it's cheaply made (supposedly) even though he concedes the images coming from it are spot on. Â Much prefer Mr. Puts. He gives the Summarit line great approval. Â Excellent gallery! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeinzX Posted July 3, 2011 Share #9  Posted July 3, 2011 There has been just the same question in the German Forum from me. The Summilux was out of reach, because not available and therefore I had the two alternatives mentioned before. The Summarit was recommendend very much and I was told, that as far as flares are concerned it is even better than the Summicron. Finally I`ve bought the Summarit and I am very satisfied with this tiny lens. As far as mechanical quality is concerned I find not very much difference to my 18 mm Super Elmar ASPH and my Elmarit 28 mm ASPH. In the meantime I´ve got a Summarit 90 mm too, because I´m stilll waiting for my already before ordered Macro Elmar 90 mm. Impression of this lens is very satisfying too, stellar quality of pictures and small dimensions.  Regards Heinz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnloumiles Posted July 3, 2011 Share #10 Â Posted July 3, 2011 Excellent gallery! Â Thank you for checking it out! Very kind of you to say. Â Are you leaning one way or another towards either 50? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel Posted July 4, 2011 Share #11  Posted July 4, 2011 I have read alot about this The summarit is more contrasty and less susceptable to flare f4 and above you can't tell a difference in detail below f4 the summicron has more detail then the summarit  I am very happy with the summarit. For me it was the summarit or the summilux, as the extra for the summicron wasn't worth it based on the loss of micro-contrast  Example of both DOF, detail and contrast on the 50mm summarit:  [/url] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted July 4, 2011 Share #12 Â Posted July 4, 2011 Which Summarit do you refer to, 50/1.5 or 50/2.5? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel Posted July 4, 2011 Share #13 Â Posted July 4, 2011 Which Summarit do you refer to, 50/1.5 or 50/2.5? Â latest 50mm f2.5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted July 4, 2011 Share #14 Â Posted July 4, 2011 Then it is a very good lens but i don't like its somewhat harsh bokeh. See: Summarit f2.5 50mm Leica Lens review Summarit Series 35,50,90 Ugly Test - Leica User Forum Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyril Jayant Posted July 4, 2011 Share #15 Â Posted July 4, 2011 Â He recommends against the Summarit because it's cheaply made (supposedly) even though he concedes the images coming from it are spot on. Â Much prefer Mr. Puts. He gives the Summarit line great approval. Â Johnloumiles ! So you prefer Mr Puts because he favours Summarit and what he say about Summarit is true? I thought in the LEICA LENS what he says is right .I can't compare as I never used Summarit. Sorry guys if I have done anything wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel Posted July 4, 2011 Share #16  Posted July 4, 2011 Johnloumiles ! So you prefer Mr Puts because he favours Summarit and what he say about Summarit is true? I thought in the LEICA LENS what he says is right .I can't compare as I never used Summarit. Sorry guys if I have done anything wrong.  Summarit 50mm is excellently made. Not sure why some folk say its not made as well as other Leicas !!! I think they just try and be clever in their justification of the price.  the reason the Summarit 50mm is cheaper (in the UK) is very simple:  1. No Hood 2. No Hard case 3. Only 1 year guarantee and no passport 4. New production line invention in Leica for this type of lens  Its a far newer lens design then the summicron and better on flare and contrast. The summicron is better on detail below f5.6, but i would generally choose the new summarit if given a choice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 4, 2011 Share #17 Â Posted July 4, 2011 All of that and a modular design that shares components with other Summarits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted July 4, 2011 Share #18 Â Posted July 4, 2011 Also a single (quite steeply sloping) helicoid - which is presumably another cost saver. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnloumiles Posted July 4, 2011 Share #19 Â Posted July 4, 2011 Johnloumiles ! So you prefer Mr Puts because he favours Summarit and what he say about Summarit is true? I thought in the LEICA LENS what he says is right .I can't compare as I never used Summarit. Sorry guys if I have done anything wrong. Â Yes! I just pictured you walking up to me on the street and yelling my full name really fast and loud! But no you did nothing wrong. Â I do not like or dislike Mr Puts for his view on the Summarit although I read his in depth review before purchasing one. I like him because he has an awesome name and a picture of a cat on his website, let's be clear about that. Â That and he's very concise and knowledgeable on the subject of Leica. Â Quick side note, Summarit 1.5 50mm. Found one in great condition but trying to find some trustworthy ideas about it. I've liked some images coming from it but others not so much. Anyone have one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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