flavio Posted February 8, 2007 Share #21 Posted February 8, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Sometime I also think to pass along to digital Nikon. I use Leitz since 1983 with SL2 and Macro Elmarit, then added a R4s with 180 ApoTelyt and 35 PA Curtagon (that I enjoy a LOT). Few years ago an M4 (trading for SL2) and 50 Summicron did arrive at home. I have to say that I love Leica colours and slides. Everytime I am going to buy something different, I stop at the latest moment. Last saturday I was going again for Nikon but 1 hour later I purchased an M 21 Super Angulon for my M4 (thanks to friends here for advise). I think I cannot use a different camera. Cheers Flavio Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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lambroving Posted February 8, 2007 Share #22 Posted February 8, 2007 Steve Yeh, spoke with them and it's not in that great a condition. My M6 looks like it is new so I don't want to hang a battered piece of glass on it. Thanks anyway. Bit late here, but if you have no lens for your M6 now, suggest you start with a 35/2, either IV Version or ASPH. Read this thread and others. A Leica is just not like a DSLR. http://www.leica-camera-user.com/customer-forum/15259-need-help-35mm-28mm.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted February 8, 2007 Share #23 Posted February 8, 2007 Hi Ian, William's sort of right. If you want two lenses you'll find the 50 and 75 very close together. Think about buuying a 50 and a 35 or a 75 and a 35, no need to be dogmatic, choose which you prefer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted February 8, 2007 Share #24 Posted February 8, 2007 Yes, just the M6 body. I am hoping to get an M8 ready for my planned trip to Peru in early 2008, I am so impressed with the quality of images it produces. As a long-time film user I was initially very disappointed when I moved to digital and although the D2x is a superb camera it takes some work to get top quality images - it's very unforgiving. I have contemplated selling my Nikon gear and jumping to Leica completely with an M8 but that would be a step too far right now. I do also shoot a lot of 80-200 focal length images. I am I think likely to go for the 1.4s straight off though one at a time. I don't mind waiting and am really gearing up for my 2008 trip when I know I will not want to lug all the heavy Nikon gear around. If I still have it by then Man, You are in a forum where EVERYONE can tell you by sure : Nikon gear? GOOD TO TRADE for L. and L. and L.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian748s Posted February 8, 2007 Author Share #25 Posted February 8, 2007 Hi Ian, William's sort of right. If you want two lenses you'll find the 50 and 75 very close together. Think about buuying a 50 and a 35 or a 75 and a 35, no need to be dogmatic, choose which you prefer. Thanks for all the advice. I admit to being VERY inexperienced in this area but what I do know is that I rarely use extreme wide angle lenses and I do not shoot landscapes either (not that that's all extreme wide angles are good for). I have 28mm, 35mm, 50mm and 85mm lenses for my Nikon cameras - the 50mm gets most use from these. Also 17-55mm, 80-200mm (my most used lens) and 60mm micro and 300mm lenses. So I guess this won't help. I am keen to get into street and portrait photography much more and I also do some commercial work and a few weddings. I adore low light/available light photography. Again, thanks one and all - food for thought. It not something I will rush into. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambroving Posted February 8, 2007 Share #26 Posted February 8, 2007 Ian, This is a Leica, not an SLR. With a Leica you will be closer. Look through the viewfinder. Look at the various frames. I'm no people-shooter, but many who are use a 35 at f5.6 at 2m and focus critically if they have the time. Believe me, this is a different tool. Many consider the 35 to be the "normal" lens for an M. Shoot B&W if you like as well, but don't limit yourself. Leica lenses are among the best-corrected for color and you will get unexpected results. It's not like a Nikon. someone else can jump in here... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambroving Posted February 8, 2007 Share #27 Posted February 8, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) I told you I'm no people-shooter, but this is with a 35/2. Definitely M-camera territory... http://www.leica-camera-user.com/discus_e/messages/11/72352.html?1087754396 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enboe Posted February 9, 2007 Share #28 Posted February 9, 2007 The Decisive Moment by Henri Cartier-Bresson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunafan Posted February 10, 2007 Share #29 Posted February 10, 2007 The Decisive Moment by Henri Cartier-Bresson Eric, thanks for this link Suna Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted February 10, 2007 Share #30 Posted February 10, 2007 Ian, one of the advantages of the M range is that you can select the various framelines manually and see yourself whether you prefer a 35mm or 50mm lens before you make the perchase. Personally I prefer a 35mm to a 50mm, but it's a personal choice and you shouldn't let anyone make up your mind for you - it's your call :-). William obviously also prefers a 35mm too, but again it's just his personal opinion. Whether or not you get closer to the subject with an M will depend on how _you_ shoot, not on how William or I shoot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian748s Posted February 10, 2007 Author Share #31 Posted February 10, 2007 Ian, one of the advantages of the M range is that you can select the various framelines manually and see yourself whether you prefer a 35mm or 50mm lens before you make the perchase. Personally I prefer a 35mm to a 50mm, but it's a personal choice and you shouldn't let anyone make up your mind for you - it's your call :-). William obviously also prefers a 35mm too, but again it's just his personal opinion. Whether or not you get closer to the subject with an M will depend on how _you_ shoot, not on how William or I shoot. You are right and I guess I need to try a number of lenses before I buy. Thanks for all the help on both lenses and reading material from everyone and I hope to become a regular on this forum. The three books I ordered have now arrived and I am eager to get stuck in! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhsimmonds Posted February 10, 2007 Share #32 Posted February 10, 2007 A Leica is just not like a DSLR. Not unles it is a Leica R8/9DMR..........snap one up now before thay are all gone!!! Medium format 16 bit quality files from a 35mm totally intuitive Leica camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilfredo Posted February 10, 2007 Share #33 Posted February 10, 2007 E-bay is a great source for new and used lenses just carefully read the description, ask questions, and carefully check the feedback on the seller. I've made quite a few Leica purchases there including three Leica lenses and a Konica Hexanon M lens, all minty. Cheers, Wilfredo+ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilfredo Posted February 10, 2007 Share #34 Posted February 10, 2007 Flavio, On the reading issue, I have a bunch of books on Leicas, non of them really all that useful except for technical and historical information which won't really impact or inspire your photography. I suggest that you read on legendary Leica photographers such as Henri Cartier Bresson, and other Magnum photographers for inspiration. That's where you will find the true value of the M camera. I took the shot below with my M7. © WIlfredo Benitez Cheers, Wilfredo+ Benitez-Rivera Photography Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/15583-leica-reading-please-recommend-a-book-or-two/?do=findComment&comment=167697'>More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted February 10, 2007 Share #35 Posted February 10, 2007 Not unles it is a Leica R8/9DMR..........snap one up now before thay are all gone!!! Medium format 16 bit quality files from a 35mm totally intuitive Leica camera. David, William doesn't believe that the SLRs are real Leicas - apart from perhaps the SL ;-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_parker Posted February 10, 2007 Share #36 Posted February 10, 2007 Not unles it is a Leica R8/9DMR..........snap one up now before thay are all gone!!! Medium format 16 bit quality files from a 35mm totally intuitive Leica camera. ...agree with that Ps Wilfredo - really nice photograph !! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian748s Posted February 10, 2007 Author Share #37 Posted February 10, 2007 I think onr or teo of you may have got hold of the wrong end of things......... I am not so much looking for inspiration on image taking, more on how to make best use - in the use of - a rangefinder/Leica. I've never used one properly before. Anyway, thanks again, the three books I have are a great help. Once I have learned how to use the M6 I will be seeking some inspiration! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted February 10, 2007 Share #38 Posted February 10, 2007 Ian, the best way to get used to using a Leica is to use it. That isn't meant to be trite, it's a piece of honest advice. If you find it strange at first compared to an SLR don't be too surprised, many people find it a peculiar experience :-), but don't give up unless you really don't like the it. So, choose a 35mm or 50mm lens, buy a lot of film, and get out there pressing the shutter :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian748s Posted February 12, 2007 Author Share #39 Posted February 12, 2007 Ian, the best way to get used to using a Leica is to use it. That isn't meant to be trite, it's a piece of honest advice. If you find it strange at first compared to an SLR don't be too surprised, many people find it a peculiar experience :-), but don't give up unless you really don't like the it. So, choose a 35mm or 50mm lens, buy a lot of film, and get out there pressing the shutter :-) Steve You're right obviously. I'm somewhat a perfectionist and have much less time than I would like to indulge photography 'for myself' than I would like. My aim in asking for advice was to gain an insight into the use of rangefinders quickly and with least effort on my part. I thought this best done here and also whilst I decide on which lens to start my Leica experience with. Looks like that will be a 35mm either cron or lux (are these the correct abbreviations?). I have two other film cameras, a Nikon F2a and an F3 but these have seen little use 'in action' recently as to be honest there is nothing I can do with either that cannot be done much better with my D2x - though perhaps now it seems that Agfa Scala can still be obtained and developed, I may have started using film again anyway. Ironically it's through this forum that I discovered that fact as well. My primary reason for embarking down the Leica route is that I wish to gain an understanding and experience of the use of rangefinders and if I like it I will get en M8. The advice given here has been invaluable and I'm itching to get out there shooting with the M6. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bernd Banken Posted February 12, 2007 Share #40 Posted February 12, 2007 Hi Ian, I'm sitting in the same boat. Shooting with Nikons for more than 35 years in film and digital a M6 became my companion since December. Photographing in the past was much easier with much more time and a brain more empty than now:D After shooting three rolls a very small number as the geeks here would say let me explain my experience with the framelines. The 35mm lens has the widest framelines in the finder of my 0.72 version and the fact that I'm wearing glasses. These lines and the nearly full coverage of the total viewfinder area is similar to the ttl-look of a SLR. It would be wider with the a 28mm lens but these lines I'm unable to see as borders. Take a fast film at the moment here in winter with bad light and just drift around. At first it would be easier to focus on static things like big walls with huge ads where people rush by you search the right angle do the exact exposure adjustments and wait - a bit. Within a few minutes something will drop into the scene and you catch it:D In comparisons of shots with a digital camera and converted to b/w the film has it's own grainy expression this will add "art" into the pic. Last saturday I visited a hatmakers shop with the M6. I was nearly unseen by the customers and I didn't like to disturb the business but it was easy to get some shots which transfer the mood in this small, dark shop. The task was the correct focussing in this light but I can come back and train again. If you are mentallity wise a person which needs more distance to other people take the 50mm that lens gives you some few meters away from the targets. But most important: Take the M everytime with you and after ten rolls of film it's a part of your body:D Cheers Bernd PS: the shop: http://www.leica-camera-user.com/people/16090-my-hatmaker.html http://www.leica-camera-user.com/other/16159-derby-sport.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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