nkbitsch Posted June 9, 2011 Share #1 Posted June 9, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Does anybody know which type this summicron is? serial: 2,317,xxx Antique and Classic Camera Home Page states that: 35 Summicron F2 Type 1 - 1,631,xxx - 2,3xx,000 35 Summicron F2 Type 2 - 2,3xx,000 - 2,461,000 I there a way to figure out if it is one or the other? I haven't seen pictures of the lens yet, I just found it on sale. All the best Niels Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted June 9, 2011 Posted June 9, 2011 Hi nkbitsch, Take a look here Is this a type 1 or 2 summicron?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
a.noctilux Posted June 9, 2011 Share #2 Posted June 9, 2011 Hello, All you need to known is here: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/index.php/Summicron_%28I%29_f%3D_3.5_cm_1:2 http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/index.php/35mm_f/2_Summicron_II your number seems to be version II ( if the D o F scale is parallel ). ... OMG But is there a mistake in Leica-wiki ? The Summicron II 's pictures seem to be version IV . Arnaud Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted June 10, 2011 Share #3 Posted June 10, 2011 Welcome to the forum !! In this section, questions like yours are often discussed in deep... so don't be surprised if you start to receive various answers... is a complicated world... : - Laney (Leica illustrated guide) says that Summicron 35 v2 started with # 2.316.001 - Lager (Leica illustrated history Vol. II) says that it started above # 2.307.450 - Puts (Leica lists) quotes these two batches of Summicrons 35 of 1969 : 2.307.451 - 2.307.750 and 2.316.001 - 2.318.400. But... in the same book Lager displays a Summicron 35 from a batch that is intermediate between the two above (2.312.751 - 2.314.750) : it's a black Wetzlar lens that has the look of a Version 1 So... I leave to someone else the decision and the proof... ... the fact that the lens, in those timeframes, was produced both in Germany and Canada is an additional complcation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ron (Netherlands) Posted June 10, 2011 Share #4 Posted June 10, 2011 But is there a mistake in Leica-wiki ? The Summicron II 's pictures seem to be version IV . Arnaud INDEED, they have put up pictures of the black and chromium nr. IV. They also have done this with the nr. III Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted June 10, 2011 Share #5 Posted June 10, 2011 Thiele's "Kleines Fabrikationshandbuch Leica Objektive" 3.ed., 2007 says: 1000 2.285.351-2.286.350 chrome, 8 lenses, 1968 600 2.307.001-2.307.600 (no colour indicated) 7 lenses (sic!) 1968 2000 2.312.751-2.314.750 chrome, with and without goggles 1969 1500 2.316.001-2.318.500 black, 1969 2000 2.328.801-2.330.800 black, 1969 2000 2.393.501-2.395.500 black, 6 lenses (sic!), 1970 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted June 11, 2011 Share #6 Posted June 11, 2011 In PARTIAL conclusion, there is the STRONG chance it's a version 2 : but only a detailed picture of the item is the definitive proof... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdavis Posted June 13, 2011 Share #7 Posted June 13, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) May (can) we have some kind of consensus here to sort the wiki out? Thanks, Tim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted June 14, 2011 Share #8 Posted June 14, 2011 Yes, the Wiki's pictures of II and III are definitely not correct : it would be better if someone changes them; personally, I do not know how to do it... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc_braconi Posted June 14, 2011 Share #9 Posted June 14, 2011 Yes, the Wiki's pictures of II and III are definitely not correct : it would be better if someone changes them; personally, I do not know how to do it... Tim is the more active member to updating it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted June 14, 2011 Share #10 Posted June 14, 2011 Ok, Tim, if you are going to "fix" the Summicrons' 35 pictures... please give a look also to Elmarit 28 II... the picture in the middle is not of a II... (btw... I just now noticed that in the Wiki someone has added to 280 V3 my picture of the "Franken 280 - V3 head on V2 body" ... funny... but I hope none thinks that such a weird lens did exist really... ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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