jaapv Posted May 22, 2011 Share #1 Posted May 22, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) In February I ordered an LTM adapter. After a few weeks I inquired, got a prompt response he would look into it. Three weeks after that I inquired once again, attaching the Paypal payment confirmation. No reponse. Last week I asked again. No response. So. Four months, money lost and no adapter. What now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted May 22, 2011 Posted May 22, 2011 Hi jaapv, Take a look here John Milich - very disappointed. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
stunsworth Posted May 22, 2011 Share #2 Posted May 22, 2011 It will probably appear. John doesn't seem to like answering emails. Some might say that's poor customer relations, he'd probably say it's a tiny part of his business. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 22, 2011 Author Share #3 Posted May 22, 2011 Yes-but even for a small part it is very long now... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M. Valdemar Posted May 22, 2011 Share #4 Posted May 22, 2011 Why do you people order these uber-expensive adapters from problematic, quirky guys who send things late and won't communicate? They are just pieces of metal that attach lenses. The micro four thirds cameras focus with live view and you see what the sensor sees, so the exact precision of the adapter makes no difference at all. Get the cheapest China-made eBay adapter and be happy and save your money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 22, 2011 Author Share #5 Posted May 22, 2011 And miss focus because of bad tolerances Have a wobbly lens and mess with hand coding - be happy with your el- cheapo savings And i didn't know the M9 was micro 4/3rds... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M. Valdemar Posted May 22, 2011 Share #6 Posted May 22, 2011 I assumed you were ordering a micro four thirds adapter. The LTM adapter is even simpler. I have plenty of cheap LTM adapters that are perfect. No problemo. While you might worry about wobblies and misfocus, you don't have an adapter at all, and I am taking pictures with mine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted May 22, 2011 Share #7 Posted May 22, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Does Milich work for Cameraleather Morgan on the side? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_parker Posted May 22, 2011 Share #8 Posted May 22, 2011 Why do you people order these uber-expensive adapters from problematic, quirky guys who send things late and won't communicate? They are just pieces of metal that attach lenses. The micro four thirds cameras focus with live view and you see what the sensor sees, so the exact precision of the adapter makes no difference at all. Get the cheapest China-made eBay adapter and be happy and save your money. I have a cheap China made adapter and it fits - but the lens settles at 90 degrees to its usual position, leaving focussing scale at 3 o'clock, which makes it quite tricky to use effectively. It also has that nice scraapey feel that cheapness imparts when it gets too close to expensive equipment.... Consequently I don't actually have a camera, cheap or not, that I would risk putting the Cheap Chinese Adapter on. John Millich's adapters work perfectly straight out of the box and are machined in what I take to be either brass or bronze. You never worry about using them with expensive or precious lenses or camera bodies. I ordered an adapter from him just around Christmas time and got it about a week, might have been 10 days later, so unless something has changed drastically the service is normally good. I'd chase again and let him sort it out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 22, 2011 Author Share #9 Posted May 22, 2011 I assumed you were ordering a micro four thirds adapter. The LTM adapter is even simpler. I have plenty of cheap LTM adapters that are perfect. No problemo. While you might worry about wobblies and misfocus, you don't have an adapter at all, and I am taking pictures with mine. Don'worry, i have plenty Cv ones. I just want a codable one for my new CV 75. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted May 22, 2011 Share #10 Posted May 22, 2011 John is also a Forum member (last visited in January this year), so sending him a PM -might- show up in his email in-box and attract his attention. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M. Valdemar Posted May 22, 2011 Share #11 Posted May 22, 2011 So your logic is as follows: I have one Chinese adapter that is faulty. Ergo, all Chinese adapters are faulty. You could also say: I have one Leica M9 that stopped working two days out of the box. Ergo, all Leica M9s will stop working I have beautifully made Chinese adapters milled from brass and chrome that are within perfect tolerances and very inexpensive. I have a cheap China made adapter and it fits - but the lens settles at 90 degrees to its usual position, leaving focussing scale at 3 o'clock, which makes it quite tricky to use effectively. It also has that nice scraapey feel that cheapness imparts when it gets too close to expensive equipment.... Consequently I don't actually have a camera, cheap or not, that I would risk putting the Cheap Chinese Adapter on. John Millich's adapters work perfectly straight out of the box and are machined in what I take to be either brass or bronze. You never worry about using them with expensive or precious lenses or camera bodies. I ordered an adapter from him just around Christmas time and got it about a week, might have been 10 days later, so unless something has changed drastically the service is normally good. I'd chase again and let him sort it out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted May 22, 2011 Share #12 Posted May 22, 2011 But how do you know whether you are going to get a good Chinese example, or a bad one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M. Valdemar Posted May 22, 2011 Share #13 Posted May 22, 2011 You can read the eBay feedbacks and make a good guess. On the other hand, you can get twenty Chinese adapters for the price of one from the expensive "quirky craftsman" guy. If one or two are no good, you are still way ahead. I test mine by putting one on a lens and taking a picture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delander † Posted May 22, 2011 Share #14 Posted May 22, 2011 Don'worry, i have plenty Cv ones. I just want a codable one for my new CV 75. Jaap I thought the latest CV adapters have recessed ring and are hand codable? Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M. Valdemar Posted May 22, 2011 Share #15 Posted May 22, 2011 PS: These are really excellent. Well made, but not coded. They are dead on accurate: M39 LSM LTM 50 - 75 Lens to Leica M Screw-Mount Adapter | eBay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted May 22, 2011 Share #16 Posted May 22, 2011 Don'worry, i have plenty Cv ones. I just want a codable one for my new CV 75. The f 1,8, I suppose.... curios and someway intriguing lens... How is your feeling about ? btw... "one man shops" can be incredibly slow... it's 3 months I'm waiting for my (simple, but non-standard) ring for 800 on Viso... ... so good that I wasn't asked to pay in advance : the shop has my focusing unit, for ring matching, as hostage... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_parker Posted May 22, 2011 Share #17 Posted May 22, 2011 PS: These are really excellent. Well made, but not coded. They are dead on accurate: M39 LSM LTM 50 - 75 Lens to Leica M Screw-Mount Adapter | eBay Yes but the point is that Jaap wants one that can be coded, given the image is correct that one won't code Ps My previous point is that quality control is a problem for for the type of aftermarket adapter that I have obtained from Chinese sources, not that there is a logical extention that all aftermarket adapters are defective Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted May 22, 2011 Share #18 Posted May 22, 2011 The f 1,8, I suppose.... curios and someway intriguing lens... How is your feeling about ? btw... "one man shops" can be incredibly slow... it's 3 months I'm waiting for my (simple, but non-standard) ring for 800 on Viso... ... so good that I wasn't asked to pay in advance : the shop has my focusing unit, for ring matching, as hostage... Hep... I wrote it wrong... CV 75 1,8 is in BM... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 22, 2011 Author Share #19 Posted May 22, 2011 No, it is the 2.5. I have no intention of farting around with hand coding and don't particularly mind paying those extra few dollars, so what is wrong with a JLM adapter? Except that it does not appear... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted May 22, 2011 Share #20 Posted May 22, 2011 I have a cheap China made adapter and it fits - but the lens settles at 90 degrees to its usual position, leaving focussing scale at 3 o'clock, which makes it quite tricky to use effectively. Yes but if was an LTM adapter its working perfectly, you may have needed a CV adapter. A lot of LTM lenses were designed to be offset to the left looking from the rear, so people could read the focus scale if an accessory was mounted in the hotshoe of an LTM body. So if an adapter mounts a lens offset its designed to mount LTM lenses. And the reason you would want the LTM lens to remain offset if you use an adapter is because the focus throw begins and ends in the original position. Mount the lens on an adapter that makes it sit square and your finger ends up blocking the viewfinder window at close distances. Most if not all of the Chinses LTM adapters you are criticising are doing everything right in maintaining that offset. But if you put a CV or other lens on it (for instance) the lens may be offset, so you needed a CV adapter for M39 which may mount it square. So, so many people have a go at the Chinses LTM adapters for this perceived 'fault' it needs clearing up, they are right, you are wrong. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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