Guest guy_mancuso Posted February 1, 2007 Share #61  Posted February 1, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Shot this today with the 75 cron and used Edmunds linear profile here , not bad Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/14567-75-apo-vs-90-apo/?do=findComment&comment=158656'>More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted February 1, 2007 Share #62  Posted February 1, 2007 Actually I like this better. I got a little flair from the back light but burned it down Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/14567-75-apo-vs-90-apo/?do=findComment&comment=158658'>More sharing options...
colorflow Posted February 1, 2007 Share #63 Â Posted February 1, 2007 Well I did it. All this talk about the 90 APO caused me to browse eBay for one, and guess what I found - a like new one in black paint for a couple hundred less than the discount price. So now I need to sell my Elmarit 90 and version 2 Cron 90 to partially pay for it. No sense to keep the Elmarit, is there? Â Alan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom0511 Posted February 1, 2007 Share #64 Â Posted February 1, 2007 How big do you guys find the weight(size/feel difference between 90apo and 90/2.8? Â Guy, how do you find the 90apo in comparison to your 75apo? Â If anybody has too much time and would shoot to images of the same scene with nboth lenses (75apo/90apo) or I also very in terested in 90apo vs 90/2.8 images. Not for pixel peeping but for overall look. regards, tom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted February 1, 2007 Share #65 Â Posted February 1, 2007 Tom the 90 APO comes today and i will try that with all three probably Saturday. Ray is interested in my 90 elmarit so we were going to shoot a comparision to see how they draw. I will certainly post that. The 90 elmarit is very nice and small, just a shade longer than the 75mm apo. But it takes a 46mm filter compared to the 90 apo at 55mm so it is also thinner. I shot a lot of golf yesterday with the 90 elmarit and it was very nice and pleasing look , not to harsh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted February 1, 2007 Share #66 Â Posted February 1, 2007 Well a funny thing happened . I sold the 75 cron so looking for a 75mm lux now. I'm just to fast. The 90 apo is very nice and will give it a whirl Friday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddp Posted February 1, 2007 Share #67 Â Posted February 1, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) To me it's a pity that Leica put so much effort into the 50mm f/1.4 ASPH so close to the introduction of the M8. Â I suspect that when the 50 1.4 Asph was introduced in 2004 that the M8 was still fresh on the drawing board. It did replace a lens that had been unchanged glass-wise for close to 40 years. The new apsheric lenses do bring positives to the drawing board. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankg Posted February 1, 2007 Share #68 Â Posted February 1, 2007 The new Zeiss 85 sonnar with floating elements (if it ever makes it to market) will add another interesting choice. Consensus on these lens seems to be that the 75 cron is spectacular, the 90 is spectacular as well but not so much at close range. Â I have an M8 on its way to me via UPS now. I am looking for something that will fill the slot that my much loved Canon 135/2 L filled. I owned the 75 lux the last time I owned an M and it drew beautiful sharp to OOF transitions, so it could fill the bill, but I found it to big for the M. I need to see some more 75 cron portraits with blurred backgrounds to see if it can do the job for me. I think I will wait for the Sonnar before I make a final choice (although it may be as big as the 75 lux). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted February 1, 2007 Share #69  Posted February 1, 2007 Well a funny thing happened . I sold the 75 cron so looking for a 75mm lux now. I'm just to fast. The 90 apo is very nice and will give it a whirl Friday  Found a Lux. On it's way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhoelscher Posted February 1, 2007 Share #70 Â Posted February 1, 2007 The new Zeiss 85 sonnar with floating elements (if it ever makes it to market) will add another interesting choice. ... Â Yes, and no worries about cyan drift either, so no need (I think, right?) to hand code that lens! Â DH Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhoelscher Posted February 1, 2007 Share #71  Posted February 1, 2007 Found a Lux. On it's way  Guy,  May I accuse you of having lens lusts????  DH Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted February 1, 2007 Share #72 Â Posted February 1, 2007 Worse than that a really deadly diease. And it spreads over the internet. I'm sooooooooooooooooooo Bad. ROTFLMAO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrogers Posted February 1, 2007 Share #73 Â Posted February 1, 2007 How big do you guys find the weight(size/feel difference between 90apo and 90/2.8? Â While certainly real, I don't find the size, weight and handling difference between the 90AA and current 90 Elmarit lenses much of a consideration. The AA is a little fatter and heavier, but they feel more similar than different (unlike comparing either lens to the "thin" TE 90, which feels much smaller and lighter). The performance of both newer 90s is excellent at all apertures, but the edge goes to the 90AA. Â I no longer have a current elmarit. I use a thin TE when I want small and light, and the 90AA when I need great performance, flare resistance or lens speed. Â Clyde Rogers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrogers Posted February 1, 2007 Share #74 Â Posted February 1, 2007 I am looking for something that will fill the slot that my much loved Canon 135/2 L filled. Â That is a sweet lens. I have the 90AA, but haven't had enough time with the M8 to determine if it fills that slot. If I can get more consistent focus with a diopter, I think the 90 will take the Canon's place (the 90 is certainly up to it optically). If not, I'll be looking at the 75. Â Regards, Â Clyde Rogers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macusque Posted February 1, 2007 Share #75 Â Posted February 1, 2007 From my personal experience M8+90 Apo exceeds 1Ds+135L. The Leica combo gives me better results handheld and I prefer the bokeh and colors of the 90 Apo. Sharpness wise they are both excellent, though I'd give the edge to the 90 Apo wide open. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
innerimager Posted February 2, 2007 Share #76 Â Posted February 2, 2007 Well a funny thing happened . I sold the 75 cron so looking for a 75mm lux now. I'm just to fast. The 90 apo is very nice and will give it a whirl Friday you sure are fast...congrats. please post impressions and images with the APO 90, I'll be most interested. might make a lot more sense for me to get the APO 90 than the APO 75....peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Richardson Posted February 2, 2007 Share #77  Posted February 2, 2007 Well a funny thing happened . I sold the 75 cron so looking for a 75mm lux now. I'm just to fast. The 90 apo is very nice and will give it a whirl Friday  You are crazy my friend, but I don't think you will regret the 75/1.4. I have both the 75/2 and 75/1.4, and the biggest difference between the two occurs from between 1.4 and f/3.5 or so. The 75/2 has higher resolution at every stop and is overall the "better" lens in terms of performance, but the 75/1.4 is terrific from 2.8 or 4 and up. Optimum is probably f/5.6 or f/4. But a funny thing happens with the lux. When you open it up all the way, the lens changes its look a great deal. The whole image becomes pleasantly fuzzy. Highlights start to glow a bit, and the depth of field is extremely small, even at distance. Even stopping down to f/2 will diminish this effect, but completely wide open it has a really cool effect. So while the 75/2 is basically identical in performance at every aperture, the 75/1.4 varies a good deal. It goes from very sharp to fairly fuzzy, which in many ways is more useful as a creative tool. But if you are looking for sharp wide open, you are better off either upping the ISO a tic on the camera and using the 75/2, or using the 50/1.4 ASPH and cropping a bit. Anyway, here are a few samples of the effect I am talking about. P.S. They are all film...I don't have my M8 yet, but supposedly next week!  This is wide open: As is this:  And here it is stopped down to f/4 or f/5.6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted February 2, 2007 Share #78 Â Posted February 2, 2007 Thanks Stuart yes i am very familar with the 80 lux on the DMR and has that same effect going which i like to have one lens that can do that and if i need sharp just stop down on that focallength .But having the 90 apo i get very simalar to the 75 cron. This sort of is the same on the R side too. i was telling someone today if you get one lens only above the 50mm than get the 75 cron but if you want different looks then a the Lux and the 90 apo . One specialized lens like this is what i want and the Nocti is too short for me. And yes I am a little crazy i shoot portraits on the DMR with the 180 f2, so i am a little non standard. This is what makes leica so nice is you can get different looks with glass instead of cookie cutter lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveEP Posted February 4, 2007 Share #79 Â Posted February 4, 2007 Didn't really want to start a new thread on this.... because i am sure it's been asked and answere before - but couldn't find it.... Â What are the main differences between a 1990 90'cron and the current APO? Are we talking significant? Â I have the chance of the older one in excellent condition at about 40% the cost of a new one.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted February 4, 2007 Share #80 Â Posted February 4, 2007 Stopped down to about f/5.6 they are similar in performance, with the Apo having the advantage in the corners, but wide open, the Apo walks all over the older lens. Having owned a 90/2 R lens, it is quite a nice lens with strong potential for portraits, so unless you really need the unbelievable sharpness of the Apo teles from Leica in recent years, I would say go for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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